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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by mperry View Post
    Don't you think you would just be wasting your vote? I would not be thrilled with those candidates either but I would vote for one or the other. I just dont see a 3rd party having a chance even if they are the better candidate.
    That is the going argument, a vote for a 3rd party is a vote wasted. I would counter with that is how we ensure the two party hold on the nation continues. Until more are willing to break away from ole (D) and (R) there is zero expectation we will see different results from either party. That explains well why the rare times both parties agree is when they work to keep another party off the ballot or not invite them to a debate.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Interesting that a libertarian would consider Finland a mecca.....

    Top 10 Most Socialist Countries in the World - Peerform BlogPeerform | Peer to Peer Lending Blog

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    "...Very interesting! I think you are very conflicted, my son. Tell me about your mother...."
    Perhaps I should be more clear - I have goals, dreams and plans (and am spinning my wheels here in the states).

    Not only are my ancestors from that part of the world (and I want to get back to my roots), but I would love to join (or, at least, work with) this band (they are my age and are simply amazing):



    I'm not so much running away, as I'm running towards something. Finland (and countries like it) own us when it comes to music, by the way. AND I'm good enough as a musician to more than make something of myself when I get there.

    Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go practice my musical instruments - please don't bore me any further with crass insinuations.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    Perhaps I should be more clear - I have goals, dreams and plans (and am spinning my wheels here in the states).

    Not only are my ancestors from that part of the world (and I want to get back to my roots), but I would love to join (or, at least, work with) this band (they are my age and are simply amazing):



    I'm not so much running away, as I'm running towards something. Finland (and countries like it) own us when it comes to music, by the way. AND I'm good enough as a musician to more than make something of myself when I get there.

    Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go practice my musical instruments - please don't bore me any further with crass insinuations.
    Good for you. Bore you? Seriously? Surely you see the irony and humor of your original post: in essence, ".... if my libertarian candidate does not win, I will be so upset that I will run off an live in one of the most socialist countries in the world..."

    Forgive me for illuminating the humor. It was such a hanging curve. ..... and, thanks for sharing about your mother (or father, which ever one is of Scandinavian descent), that wasn't so tough, was it?
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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Unfortunately, If I was in this scenario, I would vote for Clinton then go drink a **** ton of Whiskey afterwards to ease the pain.
    But aren't you sick of that. Vote third party.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    That is the going argument, a vote for a 3rd party is a vote wasted. I would counter with that is how we ensure the two party hold on the nation continues. Until more are willing to break away from ole (D) and (R) there is zero expectation we will see different results from either party. That explains well why the rare times both parties agree is when they work to keep another party off the ballot or not invite them to a debate.
    Yes, and it's a bull**** argument that guarantees the two party albatross perpetuates. With nearly 50% of voters registering as independents, if they truly voted independent of the two parties, they'd kick some ass, and what a shake up that would be to the two dinosaurs. I live for the day I see that happen.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Surely you see the irony and humor of your original post.
    I want to address this part of your post.

    When I focus on the negative, I'm focusing on what I'm "running from."

    When I focus on the positive, I'm focusing on what I'm running towards.

    I made it clear in another post that I am leaving the forum and resigning from any future debates (here and/or elsewhere). So, I give up and you win.

    By the way (and I have no idea why I'm asking you this), did you see Fleetwood Mac on the Today Show today? Absolutely fantastic!

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are you kidding? Clinton has zero leadership skills, and less personality than a lump of ****. She ain't no Slick Willie, and she can't speak. She's a droner at the microphone. Look at her resume for crying out loud for once! If it weren't for Bill Clinton, she would be nobody. You know what's worse than someone who votes for a (D) behind a name? Someone that votes for someone with zero skills for the job with a (D) behind their name.
    I assume from your tone that you're very pleased with the double elections of Barrack Obama who had personality and microphone skills sufficient to move the nation.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I assume from your tone that you're very pleased with the double elections of Barrack Obama who had personality and microphone skills sufficient to move the nation.
    True, and in the end, many policies sufficient to harm the nation.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I assume from your tone that you're very pleased with the double elections of Barrack Obama who had personality and microphone skills sufficient to move the nation.
    You know what they say about assuming things.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, and it's a bull**** argument that guarantees the two party albatross perpetuates. With nearly 50% of voters registering as independents, if they truly voted independent of the two parties, they'd kick some ass, and what a shake up that would be to the two dinosaurs. I live for the day I see that happen.
    But how do we get them to vote, much less choose a person that all their varied "Independent" parties would agree upon. I would like that, but we, (and I include myself) have no major fund raisers like the Dems and REPs have. Can we maybe start a voting revolution?? maybe a capable internet approach??


    HERE & NOW, I nominate ROMNEY to head the ticket. can we maybe DRAFT him?
    Last edited by doniston; 10-09-14 at 03:36 PM.

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