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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    In a way you are right. It was definitely a top down organization. But we were doing alright until 2000 when Pat Buchanan hijacked the Reform Party and its ballot access. Buchanan was a sly one.
    Just out of curiosity, regarding your signature, Do you agree with the gerrymandering bit? I don't, i believe the gerrymandering which already exists is the most serious problem we have with the election system.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by doniston View Post
    Just out of curiosity, regarding your signature, Do you agree with the gerrymandering bit? I don't, i believe the gerrymandering which already exists is the most serious problem we have with the election system.
    Oh yes I do. Because of gerrymandering we, the electorate, the people do not choose our representatives, they choose the voters. We are suppose to be choosing them, not the other way around. I agree, gerrymandering should be illegal, done away with. But as long as it benefits both parties, it will stay.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Oh yes I do. Because of gerrymandering we, the electorate, the people do not choose our representatives, they choose the voters. We are suppose to be choosing them, not the other way around. I agree, gerrymandering should be illegal, done away with. But as long as it benefits both parties, it will stay.
    I hate to tell you this, but the reason I asked is that the way that signature is worded, I though you were "for" gerrymandering.(as presently practiced) sorry, but that's the way I read it.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Unfortunately, If I was in this scenario, I would vote for Clinton then go drink a **** ton of Whiskey afterwards to ease the pain.


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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by doniston View Post
    I hate to tell you this, but the reason I asked is that the way that signature is worded, I though you were "for" gerrymandering.(as presently practiced) sorry, but that's the way I read it.
    No problem. There is something inherently evil when our elected officials can decide, pick and choose which voters they are going to allow to vote in their district. Gerrymandering is nothing more than jury rigging an election. Legal jury rigging.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Unfortunately, If I was in this scenario, I would vote for Clinton then go drink a **** ton of Whiskey afterwards to ease the pain.
    You must feel this way every time you vote.
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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Unfortunately, If I was in this scenario, I would vote for Clinton then go drink a **** ton of Whiskey afterwards to ease the pain.
    I think Bill did the same thing after waking up next to her each morning



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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You must feel this way every time you vote.
    good point.... But in 2014 im pretty pumped for the Governors race in KS


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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    Love Gary Johnson - don't think he can win. I have a better chance, I think, of making it to Finland than Gary Johnson has of making it into the White House. In a few years, I may just choose Finland - IF my finances are in order.



    I've voted 3rd party before and advocated for those candidates. I can practically hear crickets chirping in the background, while I preach on my soapbox, lol. So, Finland, here I come.
    Interesting that a libertarian would consider Finland a mecca.....

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    good point.... But in 2014 im pretty pumped for the Governors race in KS
    who are your choices and what are the polls saying

    Kasich is gonna destroy the Dem in Ohio. Last time it was competitive-I thought Ted Strickland might retain his seat over "Kave in Kasich" but Kasich has done a good job and the Dem has run a campaign that was John Edwards level incompetent



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