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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you as usual, missed the point. The point being that the dominant ethnic group in a nation with fairly free access to guns has lower rates of gun crimes as that same ethic group in countries that ban guns
    It's weird. The thread title is about the 2nd Amendment, but it's like the posts I'm reading are from the White Privilege thread.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I'm in favor of increasing public transit and increasing access to swimming lessons to reduce deaths. Join me.
    I have nothing against gun safety education. In fact, it should be taught in our public schools since the right to keep and bear arms is a constitutionally protected right. And if we're going to have the government teach our kids, the very least they can do is teach them to enjoy ALL of their rights, not just the ones approved by the PC police. But claiming that gun control is the answer to reducing gun deaths is an argument too easily defeated. Unfortunately, gun grabbers have never let the accuracy of their "facts" or "studies" act as any sort of impediment to repeating them over and over again, ad nauseum.

    But I am glad you're in favor of gun safety education. That says a lot about your character.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    It's weird. The thread title is about the 2nd Amendment, but it's like the posts I'm reading are from the White Privilege thread.
    you must have some strange perspective that sees white privilege anyplace in this thread.



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by LagerHead View Post
    I have nothing against gun safety education. In fact, it should be taught in our public schools since the right to keep and bear arms is a constitutionally protected right. And if we're going to have the government teach our kids, the very least they can do is teach them to enjoy ALL of their rights, not just the ones approved by the PC police. But claiming that gun control is the answer to reducing gun deaths is an argument too easily defeated. Unfortunately, gun grabbers have never let the accuracy of their "facts" or "studies" act as any sort of impediment to repeating them over and over again, ad nauseum.

    But I am glad you're in favor of gun safety education. That says a lot about your character.
    Misattributing a position is my thing. :p
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I'm not clear on what points you are trying to make.
    I'm Sorry. The language lends itself to the notion that the right to bear arms is for the purposes of security of states, provided by their militias, and that the right of the people (in context, that would be the members of the militia, males ages 17-47, I think the ages) to keep and bear arms (again, in context, for the purpose of state security) shall not be infringed. But for myself, I prefer the traditional interpretation that it is for personal security and extends to all citizens, not just the members of the militia.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm Sorry. The language lends itself to the notion that the right to bear arms is for the purposes of security of states, provided by their militias, and that the right of the people (in context, that would be the members of the militia, males ages 17-47, I think the ages) to keep and bear arms (again, in context, for the purpose of state security) shall not be infringed. But for myself, I prefer the traditional interpretation that it is for personal security and extends to all citizens, not just the members of the militia.
    Nope, "the people" means, the people. That's the context. Nowhere else in the Constitution does "the people" mean anything other than, the people.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you must have some strange perspective that sees white privilege anyplace in this thread.
    It's a derailment attempt on the thread...
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by mdw99 View Post
    I am from Scotland and doing a modern studies assignment at school on the second amendment of the US constitution and would like to gather views from US citizens.
    Could you tell me if you think the second amendment needs to be changed or not and give reasons why.
    Many thanks
    I honestly do not understand why Scots surrendered their arms. Yes, I know about the Dublin shooting, and your gun ban will not prevent the next mass homicide.

    Banning private arms is a human rights violation.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Banning private arms is a human rights violation.
    It absolutely is. Even the 2nd amendment doesn't "grant" the right to keep and bear arms, it merely affirms the inherent right of self defense.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It absolutely is. Even the 2nd amendment doesn't "grant" the right to keep and bear arms, it merely affirms the inherent right of self defense.
    Banning private arms is like banning a porcupine from having quills.

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