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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Only if you assume they never change, never react to new information, never grow. That's the only way you can fix them to such a position. But, our system was set up so that the courts ruled on what was and what wasn't constitutional. That's the system.
    Which seems to make a bit more sense than pretending it is still 1787 and we are wearing those awful three cornered hats and have a population of 4 million people in an agricultural economy in a backwater nation pretty much isolated from the rest of the world along a narrow ocean coastline.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no that's what the bill of rights says"


    The U.S. Bill of Rights

    The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

    Congress of the United States
    begun and held at the City of New-York, on
    Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

    THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
    the preamble to the bill of rights is not part of the US Constitution.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no that's what the bill of rights says"


    The U.S. Bill of Rights

    The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

    Congress of the United States
    begun and held at the City of New-York, on
    Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

    THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
    Again, the courts rule on this. I know I'm a novice, as are you, but the system allows the court to rule on what is and what isn't constitutional. Have cursory knowledge of the Constitution, or a cursory reading of it, doesn't make either of us expert. But we have 200 years of precedence to look at as well.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    the preamble to the bill of rights is not part of the US Constitution.
    the preamble an introduction tot he clauses of the bill of rights, stating what kinds of clause they are....and they are declaratory and restriction ont he federal government..

    they bestow no power to the federal government at all.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which seems to make a bit more sense than pretending it is still 1787 and we are wearing those awful three cornered hats and have a population of 4 million people in an agricultural economy in a backwater nation pretty much isolated from the rest of the world along a narrow ocean coastline.
    I liked those hats!! And the muskets and buck skins was good stuff.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, the courts rule on this. I know I'm a novice, as are you, but the system allows the court to rule on what is and what isn't constitutional. Have cursory knowledge of the Constitution, or a cursory reading of it, doesn't make either of us expert. But we have 200 years of precedence to look at as well.
    so you really think the USSC can impose restrictions from the bill of rights which apply to only government......the federal government the power to restrict the people

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, the courts rule on this. I know I'm a novice, as are you, but the system allows the court to rule on what is and what isn't constitutional. Have cursory knowledge of the Constitution, or a cursory reading of it, doesn't make either of us expert. But we have 200 years of precedence to look at as well.
    the bill of rights was not written for the states or the people....there is no 200 years....

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so you really think the USSC can impose restrictions from the bill of rights which apply to only government......the federal government the power to restrict the people
    NO, nor do I think they have. I think they know more about than you and I and have acted under the constitution to impose restrictions.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the bill of rights was not written for the states or the people....there is no 200 years....
    Yes, there is. 200 hundred years of history since it has been written.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    NO, nor do I think they have. I think they know more about than you and I and have acted under the constitution to impose restrictions.
    the founders did not impose any restrictions on the people.

    why would the people institute a government to restrict them?

    the federal government was given no authority into the life's liberty and property of the people.....zero.

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