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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why would you ask that question when the quote from Reagan DID NOT say that an AK47 could not be used for home defense?
    I have no idea what you are trying to imply. Need is irrelevant.



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have no idea what you are trying to infer. What I want to know is why is Reagan's opinion valid?

    he's wrong about Needs

    he's wrong about AK 47s
    Valid? That is the entire point. A persons individual opinion is what it is and anothers claim that it is not VALID is simply ridiculous.

    But what about an opinion in which somebody contradicts the very source they claim led them to form that opinion? Does that make their opinion STUPID? Does it make their opinion IGNORANT? Does it make that opinion INVALID?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have no idea what you are trying to imply. Need is irrelevant.
    I am not implying anything. I am stating that the man gave his own personal opinion and it proves two things:
    1- your vitriolic obsession blaming Democrats for gun control is exposed for simply partisan extremism
    2- how far to the right the NRA and some of their supporters have shifted since Reagan

    No implication. No inference. No hinting around.

    But since you like to judge the validity of others opinions - what about an opinion in which somebody contradicts the very source they claim led them to form that opinion? Does that make their opinion STUPID? Does it make their opinion IGNORANT? Does it make that opinion INVALID?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Valid? That is the entire point. A persons individual opinion is what it is and anothers claim that it is not VALID is simply ridiculous.

    But what about an opinion in which somebody contradicts the very source they claim led them to form that opinion? Does that make their opinion STUPID? Does it make their opinion IGNORANT? Does it make that opinion INVALID?
    Lots of opinions are invalid. deal with it



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Lots of opinions are invalid. deal with it
    Why is that? What do you mean by INVALID as it applies to a personal opinion expressing ones beliefs. You believe in natural rights. I do not. But I have never ever ever called your personal belief INVALID simply because I disagree with it.

    But what about an opinion in which somebody contradicts the very source they claim led them to form that opinion? Does that make their opinion STUPID? Does it make their opinion IGNORANT? Does it make that opinion INVALID?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I am not implying anything. I am stating that the man gave his own personal opinion and it proves two things:
    1- your vitriolic obsession blaming Democrats for gun control is exposed for simply partisan extremism
    2- how far to the right the NRA and some of their supporters have shifted since Reagan

    No implication. No inference. No hinting around.

    But since you like to judge the validity of others opinions - what about an opinion in which somebody contradicts the very source they claim led them to form that opinion? Does that make their opinion STUPID? Does it make their opinion IGNORANT? Does it make that opinion INVALID?
    so you are denying the Dem platform brays about more restrictions on our rights while the GOP says it opposes registration and other anti gun schemes.



    why cannot you just admit you don't like the second amendment as it should be interpreted and you wish the federal government could ban whatever it wants



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why is that? But what about an opinion in which somebody contradicts the very source they claim led them to form that opinion? Does that make their opinion STUPID? Does it make their opinion IGNORANT? Does it make that opinion INVALID?
    I saw this silly question the first time you wrote it. I have no clue what you are implying nor will I attempt to guess. Posting it five more times won't change my response



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I saw this silly question the first time you wrote it. I have no clue what you are implying nor will I attempt to guess. Posting it five more times won't change my response
    Because you have been dodging it all day now and continue to do so.

    You have made no response to the questions. Are you ready to do so?

    If somebody issues an opinion - not just a personal opinion but a formal opinion in their official capacity as a public official - and they give their reasons for their opinion and they state the source of their opinion but the opinion they gave contradicts the very source they claimed helped to guide them to the opinion - does than make the opinion DISHONEST... or IGNORANT... or STUPID ... or just plain INVALID?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Because you have been dodging it all day now and continue to do so.

    You have made no response to the questions. Are you ready to do so?

    If somebody issues an opinion - not just a personal opinion but a formal opinion in their official capacity as a public official - and they give their reasons for their opinion and they state the source of their opinion but the opinion they gave contradicts the very source they claimed helped to guide them to the opinion - does than make the opinion DISHONEST... or IGNORANT... or STUPID ... or just plain INVALID?

    posting the same question 8 times in a few minutes is silly

    I told you I am going to treat it the same as the first time I saw it



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    posting the same question 8 times in a few minutes is silly

    I told you I am going to treat it the same as the first time I saw it
    By your standard the majority opinion in HELLER written by Scalia is IGNORANT and STUPID and DISHONEST and is thus INVALID. That is by your own standards Turtle. So why don't you step up and admit it since it was proven to be so with verifiable evidence from Scalia himself?
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