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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Nor is anything else because natural right do not exist.

    Worse than a major fail.
    More silliness. YOu know damn well that matters not. what counts is that the FOUNDERS believed in said rights and INTENDED to use the BILL OF RIGHTS to recognize and Guarantee such rights. SO tell us Haymarket, why do you constantly engage in evasion by arguing over the existence of a belief? Its dilatory, evasive and a disingenuous argument



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    More evasive nonsense. We have asked you constantly to show the actual language (and since it MENTIONS NOTHING about federal gun control) show us how language devoid of any mention of gun control actually means federal gun control.

    What I know is that your posts constantly avoid answering straight questions and demand others adopt extreme and untenable definitions
    Article I Section 8. that is a direct answer and there is nothing evasive about it.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    More silliness. YOu know damn well that matters not. what counts is that the FOUNDERS believed in said rights and INTENDED to use the BILL OF RIGHTS to recognize and Guarantee such rights. SO tell us Haymarket, why do you constantly engage in evasion by arguing over the existence of a belief? Its dilatory, evasive and a disingenuous argument
    you cannot recognize something which does not exist in reality. Why do I say so? As a life long educator I try to inform and illuminate into the ignorance and darkness.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    you cannot recognize something which does not exist in reality. Why do I say so? As a life long educator I try to inform and illuminate into the ignorance and darkness.
    YOur posts are akin to squid ink on this board-a diversion used to escape being destroyed. YOur argument is specious-it matters not if a natural right EXISTS-what matters is that the founders ALL BELIEVED IN NATURAL RIGHTS and the Bill of rights was designed to recognize them

    so stop this silly diversion since it has no relevance to the issue

    once again, the founders WHO BELIEVED IN NATURAL RIGHTS, would not issue a Bill of Rights that did not recognize said Natural Rights

    and that is something you cannot refute which is why your posts continue to divert with this nonsense over whether NRs exist



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What other question is that you want to ask of me?
    I am not going to play games, if you want to answer the question, go back and look it up. I asked it three times, you could not have missed it.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Article I Section 8. that is a direct answer and there is nothing evasive about it.
    More evasive crap. cite the specific language that mentions the power to regulate privately owned firearms

    it DOES NOT EXIST so we are left with your misguided and dishonest interpretations of the language

    you have constantly failed to explain what language actually is code for federal gun control



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    YOur posts are akin to squid ink on this board-a diversion used to escape being destroyed.
    Being destroyed?!?!?!?!? What ever do you mean?

    the founders WHO BELIEVED IN NATURAL RIGHTS, would not issue a Bill of Rights that did not recognize said Natural Rights
    You cannot recognize something which does not exist in reality.

    and that is something you cannot refute which is why your posts continue to divert with this nonsense over whether NRs exist
    Simple REALITY refutes you Turtle... simple everyday reality proves you are wrong.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    More evasive crap. cite the specific language that mentions the power to regulate privately owned firearms

    it DOES NOT EXIST so we are left with your misguided and dishonest interpretations of the language

    you have constantly failed to explain what language actually is code for federal gun control
    What is there about the five specific clauses I have provided for you many times in the past that causes you to not understand?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I am not going to play games, if you want to answer the question, go back and look it up. I asked it three times, you could not have missed it.
    thats fine with me. have a nice evening.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    thats fine with me. have a nice evening.
    In other words, you refuse to answer it because it damages your case. I don't blame you. Goodnight.

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