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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    The Constitution disagrees with you, and you with it. Which is what I said in the first place. Geez Louise.
    Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    State issue, supreme court hasn't said anything at all for the past years. Maybe the constitution doesn't disagree with me.

    Hey look, be happy, the conservative states are looking out for you against the big bad wolf obama. However, in the process of looking out for you, they seem to be breaking something in the constitution that you hold dearly.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    State issue, supreme court hasn't said anything at all for the past years.
    You might want to review McDonald v Chicago, 2010 . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Maybe the constitution doesn't disagree with me.
    Wishful thinking . . . the full extent of consideration that liberals afford the US Constitution.

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    Hey look, be happy, the conservative states are looking out for you against the big bad wolf obama. However, in the process of looking out for you, they seem to be breaking something in the constitution that you hold dearly.
    A liberal arguing state's rights is a case study in schizophrenic thinking.
    I already have a license to own a gun; it's called a birth certificate.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wrong, all citizens are not supposed to be in the militia, only males of a certain age group.

    Btw, I wasn't saying that that is a correct interpretation, or should be, but many argue it that way, so, with the clause edited as Bigfoot suggests, the individual mandate would be undeniable.
    True, but our civil rights laws have changed that in practice.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    True, but our civil rights laws have changed that in practice.
    But there is no such practice. The second amendment is as much a mandate to maintain a trained militia as it is a right for its members to bear arms without infringement.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Expanding this discussion beyond the 2nd amendment, we need to do more to protect all of our rights, not just the right to bear arms. Though, to answer the question, there is no amending needed of the second amendment.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    But there is no such practice. The second amendment is as much a mandate to maintain a trained militia as it is a right for its members to bear arms without infringement.
    It's not about 'maintaining,' it's about 'enabling,' meaning they have the right to do so. No one is forced to do so, nor was that the intent. But the need was recognized and addressed by creating the 2A. As with other rights, no one is forced to exercise them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Expanding this discussion beyond the 2nd amendment, we need to do more to protect all of our rights, not just the right to bear arms. Though, to answer the question, there is no amending needed of the second amendment.
    My views are almost interchangeable with the ACLU.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's not about 'maintaining,' it's about 'enabling,' meaning they have the right to do so. No one is forced to do so, nor was that the intent. But the need was recognized and addressed by creating the 2A. As with other rights, no one is forced to exercise them.
    Your avoiding two fundamental points that has our discussion failing. Based on the literal wording of the second amendment, there are folk that make a good argument that it applies to the male members of the militia, and secondly, that it's not my argument.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I'm happy to adopt a system more like the UK. Less guns means less gun deaths.
    What a carefully worded piece of tripe. Fewer cars means fewer car deaths. Fewer swimming pools means fewer swimming pool deaths.

    Tell me, why is dying by gun worse than dying by, say a hammer? Is there a super secret level of death that is reached only by gun violence?

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by LagerHead View Post
    What a carefully worded piece of tripe. Fewer cars means fewer car deaths. Fewer swimming pools means fewer swimming pool deaths.

    Tell me, why is dying by gun worse than dying by, say a hammer? Is there a super secret level of death that is reached only by gun violence?
    I'm in favor of increasing public transit and increasing access to swimming lessons to reduce deaths. Join me.
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