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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No - that is not the point. I stated quite clearly - and some here on your side took objection to it - that Scalia invented new rules and new standards and a new version of the Second Amendment that we did not have in the past 220 years. One such example is his nonsense about a PREFATORY clause which he apparently views as having less than the value of a piece of toilet tissue - and the OPERANT clause which he seems to see as all important. I stated that this was an invention of Scalia in Heller and possibly came from the rightist build-up to it in their 25 year cause celebre which resulted in Heller.

    I provided evidence which shows this despite the urgings of Jerry that I read Heller - which I did and found the language which shows I am correct.

    And THAT my friend was MY point.
    that's the usual nonsense. The Second Amendment was always about individual rights being recognized.



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I guess you missed his appointments to the USSC and his use of an executive order denying thousands of valuable collectible MI Garands and Carbines to be reimported into the USA. The turd claimed he was afraid of "these weapons of war" ending up on the streets. The asshole was apparently too stupid to understand that the US Government sold millions of those rifles to us citizens since Korea and few if any "ended up on the streets"



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I completely rebutted your post and you denied what your own post actually said.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But aren't all three of those guys evil partisan Democrats out to destroy guns and the political base that supports the gun lobby?
    You two can pretend that the Dems aren't any worse than the GOP but the facts are against you

    1) the 1934 NFA and its modifications in 39-DEM SPONSORED, MAJORITY DEM SUPPORT

    2) the GCA of 68-Dem Sponsored, Dem Majority support

    3) the HUGHES AMENDMENT-no one knows if this really passed but Rangel made sure it did with some patent dishonesty. DEM SUPPORT and DEM SPONSOR

    4) Th Brady Bill-Dem Support, sponsorship etc

    5) CLINTON AWB-again all Dems

    6) the Lautenberg Amendment-All Dems

    so every single federal rape of our rights has been caused by the DEMS



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's the usual nonsense. The Second Amendment was always about individual rights being recognized.
    I see you are unable to refute anything I stated with any verifiable evidence.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You two can pretend that the Dems aren't any worse than the GOP but the facts are against you
    Was Ronald Reagan a Democrat when he signed gun control measures into law and supported others and gave statements decrying such weapons as the AK-47?

    so every single federal rape of our rights has been caused by the DEMS
    Reagan will be very surprised to discover he was a Democrat when he signed those bills into law.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Was Ronald Reagan a Democrat when he signed gun control measures into law and supported others and gave statements decrying such weapons as the AK-47?



    Reagan will be very surprised to discover he was a Democrat when he signed those bills into law.
    remind me of what FEDERAL gun control Reagan was involved in.

    and we have edified you as to the Hughes Amendment so again your posts are disingenuous

    Blathering REAGAN every time I note that the odious Democraps are the party of gun bans federally is not an effective rebuttal



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I see you are unable to refute anything I stated with any verifiable evidence.
    there was nothing to refute. You just make stuff up and do not support it



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    remind me of what FEDERAL gun control Reagan was involved in.

    and we have edified you as to the Hughes Amendment so again your posts are disingenuous

    Blathering REAGAN every time I note that the odious Democraps are the party of gun bans federally is not an effective rebuttal
    it is the perfect rebuttal as he was a Republican. And that is too bad for your partisan vitriolic argument.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    it is the perfect rebuttal as he was a Republican. And that is too bad for your partisan vitriolic argument.
    that is not responsive to counter the charge that EVERY FEDERAL rape of the 2A is something schemed by the Democrats.



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