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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    nope - I said nothing of the kind. I have no idea where your source is for all this stuff you make up in a sad effort to try to score some points.
    I completely rebutted your post and you denied what your own post actually said.

    Apparently you didnt understand the quote. Otherwise, you wouldnt have posted it. I never saw you actually support the quote....because you could not.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It doesn't even need clarification IMO, it's crystal clear to anyone approaching it honestly. An amendment should be passed that states any attempts to corrupt a constitutional amendment found within the BOR is an automatic charge of either treason or attempt to overthrow the government.
    Anything in the constitution can be changed. To do what you ask would defeat the entire purpose of Article V. And I have no idea how such a thing could be enforced since you use the standard of "attempt to corrupt a constitutional amendment" which sounds so vague and so broad as to be effectively meaningless.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I completely rebutted your post and you denied what your own post actually said.

    Apparently you didnt understand the quote. Otherwise, you wouldnt have posted it. I never saw you actually support the quote....because you could not.
    You were caught saying I said something I did not even say. So how could you rebut something I never said? You are simply being absurd now in a really pathetic effort to save face.

    And where did I deny what my post said? Produce it now or apologize. Of course, you will do neither.

    You have a habit of writing stuff that makes no sense and this latest post is a good example. Of course, being a true believer will do that to you.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You were caught saying I said something I did not even say. So how could you rebut something I never said? You are simply being absurd now in a really pathetic effort to save face.

    And where did I deny what my post said? Produce it now or apologize. Of course, you will do neither.
    What did I claim you said that you didnt? I explicitly said that you used an invalid quote to make your point and you denied it.

    I explained and bolded exactly how I interpreted and that the quote contained exactly that.

    I can do this all day....man up and admit you were wrong or explain how the quote supported your position. I have firewood to split and it's raining out.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    What did I claim you said that you didnt? I explicitly said that you used an invalid quote to make your point and you denied it.
    I NEVER TALKED ABOUT NEED. I thought we had that clear. Reagan did in his quote. And when you pushed the NEED angle I told you several examples of how your wants or needs does not mean crap in what you want compared to the laws of your community. Did you miss that?

    Again - where the hell do you get off pretending that you can declare a quote from Ronald Reagan in which he gives his personal opinion as INVALID?

    That seems to be at the heart of this. You apparently believe that you have accomplished something and now have put on the stripes of a referee and declaring yourself the winner.

    I can do this all day
    Go for it. And begin by telling the world how you have the authority to declare the opinion of somebody else INVALID?

    You are making no sense on any level given my statement and yours and you keep running circles chasing your own tail and going nowhere nor catching it. But hey- its a free country so continue chasing for all I care.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Again - where the hell do you get off pretending that you can declare a quote from Ronald Reagan in which he gives his personal opinion as INVALID?

    That seems to be at the heart of this. You apparently believe that you have accomplished something and now have put on the stripes of a referee and declaring yourself the winner.



    Go for it. And begin by telling the world how you have the authority to declare the opinion of somebody else INVALID?

    You are making no sense on any level given my statement and yours and you keep running circles chasing your own tail and going nowhere nor catching it. But hey- its a free country so continue chasing for all I care.

    Calm down. I said it was invalid in making your point. You are free to clarify your point in using that quote...yet you have not. Unless you can do so, I have accomplished MY point. Your denial or drama doesnt change that. If your point was different, then maybe you can support it?

    You have the quote. You have my direct replies with examples and support.

    Any day now.......I can always split firewood and come back


    Edit: But please dont come back with more whining...either use the quote and rebut my direct responses to that or stop avoiding it and being defensive just so you dont have to 'look wrong on the Internet.'
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Calm down. I said it was invalid in making your point. You are free to clarify your point in using that quote...yet you have not. Unless you can do so, I have accomplished MY point.
    What so called "point" is that?

    Any day now.......I can always split firewood and come back
    You badly confuse me with someone who cares what you may do.

    But please dont come back with more whining...either use the quote and rebut my direct responses to that or stop avoiding it and being defensive just so you dont have to 'look wrong on the Internet.'
    You rebutted nothing from my posts. You don't like the reagan quote.
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    YOu cannot declare the Reagan quote as INVALID because that makes no sense as the man gave his personal opinion that is beyond your or mine or anyones authority to judge as VALID or INVALID. It simply is.

    What is there about that reality that is so incomprehensible to you?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What so called "point" is that?



    You badly confuse me with someone who cares what you may do.



    You rebutted nothing from my posts. You don't like the reagan quote.
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    YOu cannot declare the Reagan quote as INVALID because that makes no sense as the man gave his personal opinion that is beyond your or mine or anyones authority to judge as VALID or INVALID. It simply is.

    What is there about that reality that is so incomprehensible to you?
    Tantrums are not attractive and do not convince anyone you are right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Calm down. I said it was invalid in making your point. You are free to clarify your point in using that quote...yet you have not. Unless you can do so, I have accomplished MY point. Your denial or drama doesnt change that. If your point was different, then maybe you can support it?

    You have the quote. You have my direct replies with examples and support.

    Any day now.......I can always split firewood and come back


    Edit: But please dont come back with more whining...either use the quote and rebut my direct responses to that or stop avoiding it and being defensive just so you dont have to 'look wrong on the Internet.'
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ha, now it's Reagan and Brady are bad, don't forget George Bush, better add him in, he signed a bill that would toughen screenings on those exercising their second amendment right. And he was opposed to repealing Clinton's 1994 assault weapons ban.
    That really has nothing to do wit what I said. The beginning of the Brady thuggery was a guy who worked for Nixon and the CIA and he and Nixon wanted to ban handguns It was later take over by hysterical DuPont Executive, Nelson "Pete" Shields whose son was the victim of the racist black "Zebra Killers". later the Brady's took over-using James Brady's injury and Sarah's megalomania to advance the gun ban message



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Tantrums are not attractive and do not convince anyone you are right.
    So you have thrown in the towel apparently and now its you playing Miss Manners advice column. Fine with me.
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