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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Men dont need muscle cars either. People dont 'need' 4-wheelers, they can get around perfectly find with a 4WD SUV.

    Who needs a $6000 Fendi bag? Did I miss where anyone needs personal 4 or 6 seater airplanes?

    In America, it's called 'free will' and 'personal liberty.' (And before you try it, lots of these things, named and unnamed, can kill if used improperly).
    as long as there are people who want to strip us of our rights for dishonest or nefarious reasons, we need to be well armed



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Not doubting your word, but do you know of a source for this info?

    I learned it from Global Security, John Pike's website. It used to be free, but no more.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I learned it from Global Security, John Pike's website. It used to be free, but no more.
    Thanks, I'll see if I can find it elsewhere.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we can always speculate and I suspect if someone told the founders that a future president would use the commerce clause to do the stuff FDR did, they would be calling for a rope and a high tree
    Perhaps, assuming they have no context and no knowledge of the history, which is how most people look at it in these hypotheticals. I think a more accurate view would be that they would adapt, change, and possibly go the same way we did. And maybe they would go the same way. But they adapt to new information.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Um.....so what? Are you in favor of Obamacare? How about the Hobby Lobby ruling? Do you think bakeries should be forced to bake cakes for gay weddings? What other oppressive leftist policies do you support?
    No, No, and yes because their business license is a contract with the state that says they have to.

    Any more assumptions? Looking pretty credible so far...not.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm, not sure that's true. They were practical men. The revised their first effort to strengthen federal power, not limit it more. They too, had they lived two hundred years, have likely revised many of their thoughts as they learned more. It's unlikely they would have stayed static.
    They well understood the character of men, which haven't changed over the course of history. They knew corruption because it's the second oldest profession.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They well understood the character of men, which haven't changed over the course of history. They knew corruption because it's the second oldest profession.
    That's just one aspect. Again, I believe they were realists.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we can always speculate and I suspect if someone told the founders that a future president would use the commerce clause to do the stuff FDR did, they would be calling for a rope and a high tree
    I think they had concerns about the "general welfare clause" shortly after the ratification.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's just one aspect. Again, I believe they were realists.
    Realism in today's political world means compromise toward less liberty.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No, No, and yes because their business license is a contract with the state that says they have to.

    Any more assumptions? Looking pretty credible so far...not.
    Just so we're clear. You don't agree with the Hobby Lobby ruling, and you are in favor of forcing private individuals to participate in gay marriages against their religious beliefs, and contrary to the 1st Amendment.

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