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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Why should anyone not believe that one was one of the purposes for the Second Amendment? Quite a lot of evidence makes clear that it was, and I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court cited it.
    Exactly.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    The 2nd Amendment only needs to be amended with the following sentence, "Gun-haters shall eat **** and die."
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the way the courts are going, and the way the vast majority of the academics have gone, it might not need any change in the wording. its pretty tough to pretend men who universally accepted the "reality" of natural rights would author something other than the 2A as people like me see it
    I'm, not sure that's true. They were practical men. The revised their first effort to strengthen federal power, not limit it more. They too, had they lived two hundred years, have likely revised many of their thoughts as they learned more. It's unlikely they would have stayed static.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    [url=http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-03-12-suitcase-nuclear-bombs_N.htm]Experts close the lid on 'suitcase nukes' - USATODAY.com[/ur

    Dude, I am responding to many posters. You ain't special. Calm.

    If I annoy you that much, ignore me.

    My apparently annoying nature notwithstanding, suitcase nukes are still a myth. This is old news.
    The U.S. always had the lead in nuclear weapons design, and the smallest portable one it ever developed was fitted into a pack one soldier could carry. These "special atomic demolition munitions" were meant to let very small groups of men infiltrate into enemy territory and demolish important targets like airfields, dams, and power stations.

    The bomb itself was the same one used in a small tactical rocket called the "Davy Crockett." It was just under a foot in diameter and about sixteen inches long, and it could be set to yield as little as the equivalent of ten tons of TNT, or as much as one thousand. It weighed just over fifty pounds--so the complete demolition device, with pack, timer, etc. must have weighed somewhat more. Pretty small, but not quite like the briefcase-sized things I've seen them portrayed as in movies.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    The U.S. always had the lead in nuclear weapons design, and the smallest portable one it ever developed was fitted into a pack one soldier could carry. These "special atomic demolition munitions" were meant to let very small groups of men infiltrate into enemy territory and demolish important targets like airfields, dams, and power stations.

    The bomb itself was the same one used in a small tactical rocket called the "Davy Crockett." It was just under a foot in diameter and about sixteen inches long, and it could be set to yield as little as the equivalent of ten tons of TNT, or as much as one thousand. It weighed just over fifty pounds--so the complete demolition device, with pack, timer, etc. must have weighed somewhat more. Pretty small, but not quite like the briefcase-sized things I've seen them portrayed as in movies.
    Not doubting your word, but do you know of a source for this info?

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Stop trying to deflect and avoid answering the challenge made to you to prove your charge that Reagan was senile when he made the statement. Please do present your medical evidence of this claim of fact.
    the irony in this claim is hilarious. your posts constantly avoid answering straight questions

    why does Reagan matter at all

    was he a constitutional scholar-NO

    was he an expert on firearms-NO

    was he a military expert-NO

    he doesn't matter



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Beautiful, talk about cutting of your nose to spite your face!!
    that makes no sense in response to what I wrote. care to explain it a bit better

    its fun seeing Democrat Party apologists pretend that because an out of office Reagan started kissing up to Brady, that means the GOP is as bad on gun rights as the Democrat part



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    The right to keep and bear arms that the Second Amendment guarantees is fundamental, and it existed before the Constitution. That raises the question how it very well could be amended. The wording is purely negative, telling the United States it may not infringe this long-recognized, fundamental right.

    What would an amendment say--yes, you can infringe it as you see fit? It seems to me that the idea of amending the Bill of Rights, which tells government what it may not do, necessarily involves giving government power to dispense or withhold basic rights. And in that way, it violates the essence of the Bill of Rights.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Both apply. There is a ton of honest and decent people in this nation who support people having guns for self defense and sport but also support reasonable laws controlling firearms. They are indeed honest and decent people.

    Ronald Reagan summed such folks up perfectly.


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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm, not sure that's true. They were practical men. The revised their first effort to strengthen federal power, not limit it more. They too, had they lived two hundred years, have likely revised many of their thoughts as they learned more. It's unlikely they would have stayed static.
    we can always speculate and I suspect if someone told the founders that a future president would use the commerce clause to do the stuff FDR did, they would be calling for a rope and a high tree



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