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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by mdw99 View Post
    I am from Scotland and doing a modern studies assignment at school on the second amendment of the US constitution
    Why?

    and would like to gather views from US citizens.
    So why a forum?

    Could you tell me if you think the second amendment needs to be changed or not and give reasons why.
    Many thanks
    Changed how?
    You really should be here to answer specific questions before we can give you answers.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    So in your estimation, the Constitution should simply be ignored? I posted the portion of it that proves you wrong.
    It should not, but states have their own interpretation of the constitution.

    It is a state issue.

    For example, some states interpret half the constitution and state that "people have the right to bear arms" but cannot necessarily make a militia.

    It is a state issue, if this wasn't up for debate then states wouldn't be passing gun laws right?

    The ture debate isn't whether or not we should amend the 2nd amendment, it's whether or not the federal government should provide a universal translation of the 2nd amendment that all staes must adhere to.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    Yes, take out the underlined part, it will make it more clear.
    Plenty clear to me. Just need to be smart enough to realize when it was written. That was the language of the day.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    Yes, take out the underlined part, it will make it more clear.
    Yep! Or, return the well regulated militia. That couldn't hurt either.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I think that it will be amended, in time. Maybe two generations from now. I think that it will be amended because the amount of and technology of modern arms has created a situation in the US wherein mass shootings are almost too easy to pull off. Moreover, the divide that now exists between the conservative 2nd Amendment political movement and most of the US who are for a safer and more secure society is being pushed to it's brink.

    I don't have concerns about pistols and rifles, but as I said, it's the high capacity magazines and the devil-may-care attitude about their use in assault weapons that will eventually tip the balance. As I say, it's the political 2nd Amendment will eventually sacrifice the amendment itself.
    What makes you think that only conservatives appreciate the bill of rights, or that only liberals are in favor of a safe and secure society?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    It should not, but states have their own interpretation of the constitution.

    It is a state issue.

    For example, some states interpret half the constitution and state that "people have the right to bear arms" but cannot necessarily make a militia.

    It is a state issue, if this wasn't up for debate then states wouldn't be passing gun laws right?

    The ture debate isn't whether or not we should amend the 2nd amendment, it's whether or not the federal government should provide a universal translation of the 2nd amendment that all staes must adhere to.
    What do you mean by this (bolded)?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What do you mean by this (bolded)?
    "In addition to federal gun laws, all U.S. states and some local jurisdictions have imposed their own firearms restrictions. Each of the fifty states has its own laws regarding guns.For example, Hawaii's CONSTITUTION simply copies the text of the Second Amendment verbatim,[171] while North Carolina and South Carolina begin with the same but continue with an injunction against maintaining standing armies.[172][173] Alaska also begins with the full text of the Second Amendment, but adds that the right "shall not be denied or infringed by the State or a political subdivision of the State".[174] Rhode Island, subtracts the first half of the Second Amendment, leaving only, "[t]he right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".[175]"

    Grain of salt like always, but wiki vandalism is low and gets lower nowadays.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    You are far more likely to die in a car accident than even on a battlefield.

    The way I see it. If I drive on American streets, I am infar more danger.

    Plus, people don't often run around and shoot people. Most folks that die from gunfire, are involved in something that is less than legal. It's rare that random people get shot.

    Keep out of illegal stuff, and drive carefully, you should be okay.
    I'm in favor of other people not getting shot as well.

    I'm now also in favor of adding a right to effective, free, and convenient public transit to the 2nd Amendment in order to address your other point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You should have provided a link to that. Seems like old data or false data to me.

    Wiki Link

    Wiki is usually kept up to date fairly quickly. For the same countries listed here....

    United States: 4.7 in 2012 which is higher than in your graph.
    Italy: 0.9 in 2012 which is higher than in your graph.
    Canada: 1.6 in 2012 which is higher than in your graph.
    United Kingdom: 1.0 in 2011 which is higher than in your graph.
    Japan: 0.3 in 2011 which is higher than in your graph.
    Germany: 0.8 in 2011 which is higher than in your graph.
    France: 1.0 in 2012 which is higher than in your graph.
    Russia: 9.2 in 2012 which is most definitely higher than in your graph since it didn't even have it. It should be noted that Russia here has a far worse gun related homicide than most of the countries here combined. (leave out Germany and France and the rest have less gun homicide rates combined than Russia.)
    Ok. I grabbed the first google search result that popped up. Didn't vet it for current info. The relative imbalance between western Europe and the US still remains even if we're worse than before.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    "In addition to federal gun laws, all U.S. states and some local jurisdictions have imposed their own firearms restrictions. Each of the fifty states has its own laws regarding guns.For example, Hawaii's CONSTITUTION simply copies the text of the Second Amendment verbatim,[171] while North Carolina and South Carolina begin with the same but continue with an injunction against maintaining standing armies.[172][173] Alaska also begins with the full text of the Second Amendment, but adds that the right "shall not be denied or infringed by the State or a political subdivision of the State".[174] Rhode Island, subtracts the first half of the Second Amendment, leaving only, "[t]he right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".[175]"

    Grain of salt like always, but wiki vandalism is low and gets lower nowadays.

    Gun politics in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Sure states have their own constitution, but they don't supersede the US constitution, and standing armies and militias aren't the same thing.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Plenty clear to me. Just need to be smart enough to realize when it was written. That was the language of the day.
    Most people are either too stupid to understand, ignorant of, or in dishonest opposition to what the 2nd Amendment says, unfortunately.
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