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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I get it. And if the others in the 'collective' dont want to take individual responsibility for their security, that's their problem. They do have the choice.

    See my signature below, in blue.
    I can't disagree with that.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Somebody has dropped the ball majorly if anybody is allowed to carry a firearm onto a plane. What happens if a bullet prices the fuselage of a pressurized plane?
    That's a myth. It will not suddenly depressurize the entire plane and cause it to crash.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    The Second Amendment doesn't need amending, because it really isn't the job of legislators or judges to make amendments so that its easier for people to understand.

    My surgeon didn't dumb down my appendectomy so that I could understand it. The Supreme Court shouldn't be dumbing down the Constitutions so that idiots can understand it, either.

    Considering the constitution was supposedly written so that a 4th grader could understand it, there is no excuse for misinterpreting it.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    That's a myth. It will not suddenly depressurize the entire plane and cause it to crash.
    Where did I say that it would? I asked Turtle Dude the question, he seems very knowledgeable on guns.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Somebody has dropped the ball majorly if anybody is allowed to carry a firearm onto a plane. What happens if a bullet prices the fuselage of a pressurized plane?
    its not what you think from having watched "GOLDFINGER" one too many times!



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We don't allow smoking at the gas pump either. I don't want anyone to have a firearm on a plane.
    Those are collectivist views. We're in agreement.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and the argument you make is moronic because you suggest punishing millions of lawful gun owners to perhaps stop a few criminals.
    There are tens of thousands of domestic gun deaths annually. That's a significant number of lives lost that should be addressed.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    given that terrorists can get guns on planes, I want armed Sky Marshals at least potentially on planes
    That's a collectivist view of the second amendment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's ridiculous, the only way a legal gun becomes illegal is if it becomes banned by law. A individual using a legal gun to commit a crime becomes a criminal, not the gun, the gun is still legal.
    A gun is illegal if possessed by someone without legal access. A nuclear bomb is legal when possessed by the correct people.
    Last edited by Unrepresented; 10-09-14 at 05:07 PM.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Where did I say that it would? I asked Turtle Dude the question, he seems very knowledgeable on guns.


    now having bullets fly around occupied cabin areas is not what one calls an ideal environment though


    and in some cases, someone might get sucked out if they are next to a window that gets totally blown out

    HowStuffWorks "What if someone shot a gun on an airplane?"



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Those are collectivist views. We're in agreement.

    There are tens of thousands of domestic gun deaths annually. That's a significant number of lives lost that should be addressed.

    rather than beat around the bush, tell us what sort of laws you think will make things better



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Since the poll seems to be 4-1 in favor of the Second Amendment (as written), I would suspect that any further discussion is a moot point (or, as someone said, mental masturbation).
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    Since the poll seems to be 4-1 in favor of the Second Amendment (as written), I would suspect that any further discussion is a moot point (or, as someone said, mental masturbation).
    well there are gun hating statists who claim that the 2A as written does not recognize any right belonging to individuals and one poster has claimed that "shall not be infringed" was actually written to ALLOW all sorts of infringements by the founders



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