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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Ok.

    If you're now saying that no one is killing anyone with .50cal machine-guns then that wasn't really a relevant thing for you to bring up.

    So was that a red herring or are people actually committing crimes with .50cal machine-guns?
    do you think ACTUAL criminal misuse is what motivates the gun banners?



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Ok.

    If you're now saying that no one is killing anyone with .50cal machine-guns then that wasn't really a relevant thing for you to bring up.

    So was that a red herring or are people actually committing crimes with .50cal machine-guns?
    No, the red herring is you not being able to read and interpret the language. There are clubs for people with .50s. I was at a range where a guy had a home made semi auto .50. Why does someone need a .50? And under the gun nut banner; that and carrying around a weapon supercedes the general public's desire for a safer society.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by mdw99 View Post
    I am from Scotland and doing a modern studies assignment at school on the second amendment of the US constitution and would like to gather views from US citizens.
    Could you tell me if you think the second amendment needs to be changed or not and give reasons why.
    Many thanks
    The language of the second amendment is arcane and if it were to be changed the language could be cleaned up so that everyone can plainly understand that owning firearms is an absolute right which is granted to us by our bill of rights.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    No, the red herring is you not being able to read and interpret the language. There are clubs for people with .50s. I was at a range where a guy had a home made semi auto .50. Why does someone need a .50? And under the gun nut banner; that and carrying around a weapon supercedes the general public's desire for a safer society.

    carry on
    I get so tired of people ignorant about shooting sports spewing the crap about what someone else needs.

    and since no one has been criminally shot with a 50 caliber there is absolutely no reason to ban them

    and even if some criminal gangs perpetrated crimes with a 50 BMG, that is no reason to punish the law abiding.

    I couldn't give a damn what undefined or unknown hand wringing ninnies desire. You don't have a Right to be free of inane fear. You have a civic right not to have someone criminally attack you or menace you. someone merely owning or using a weapon lawfully is not grounds for someone to demand a ban because they soil their garments over the mere thought that someone has a 50 BMG rifle



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I get so tired of people ignorant about shooting sports spewing the crap about what someone else needs.

    and since no one has been criminally shot with a 50 caliber there is absolutely no reason to ban them

    and even if some criminal gangs perpetrated crimes with a 50 BMG, that is no reason to punish the law abiding.

    I couldn't give a damn what undefined or unknown hand wringing ninnies desire. You don't have a Right to be free of inane fear. You have a civic right not to have someone criminally attack you or menace you. someone merely owning or using a weapon lawfully is not grounds for someone to demand a ban because they soil their garments over the mere thought that someone has a 50 BMG rifle
    You just can't pay attentiona at all can you. How 'bout becoming an expert in reading: that'll be refreshing.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You just can't pay attentiona at all can you. How 'bout becoming an expert in reading: that'll be refreshing.


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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    By - not - allowing - 100 round magazines - or - the - purchase - of - 15 - or - 30 - round - clips - or - full - auto.

    It - is - important - to - follow - a - conversation - so - that - you - will - understand - what - is - being - discussed - and - in - what - context - so - that - you - can - make - an - appropriate - comment - or - ask - an - question. O - k - ?
    Wow, magazine capacity bans? That sucks, since my first carry weapon was 17+1 and every single shot could be needed if I was attacked by more than one person. The cops even miss half the time...just watch the videos where they (and suspects) shoot loads of rounds and never even hit each other! Out on my own at nite OR in my home? (And I carry an extra mag)

    (17+1 is a standard for several models of fullsize 9mm semi-autos....not extreme...the norm)

    And you would limit me to 10 rounds, or less? You can go to H e double hockey sticks bub. Nothing like displaying gross indifference for my safety.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Wow, magazine capacity bans? That sucks, since my first carry weapon was 17+1 and every single shot could be needed if I was attacked by more than one person. The cops even miss half the time...just watch the videos where they (and suspects) shoot loads of rounds and never even hit each other! Out on my own at nite OR in my home? (And I carry an extra mag)

    And you would limit me to 10 rounds, or less? You can go to H e double hockey sticks bub. Nothing like displaying gross indifference for my safety.
    Anyone who supports magazine limits is in a criminal conspiracy with armed criminals and should be seen as such



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    PLease show me where I said that a .50 was being used to kill people.
    Yeah Jerry! What's wrong with you?!

    That round is way too expensive for casual killing
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yeah Jerry! What's wrong with you?!

    That round is way too expensive for casual killing
    yeah If I despise someone enough to want to off them, I am not going to waste 6 bucks on a good 50 caliber shell



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