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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    YOu probably missed 'my' point but the one I bolded in new info for me...and it is welcome info.
    Good, that's why I posted it for you.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Bummer. That sucks.
    There is an undercurrent that "silencers"may be removed from the NFA list. No one is committing crimes with them and lots of time and effort is eaten up by ATF employees on this. Short Barreled Rifles ought to be removed as well but then again, the entire Act is unconstitutional and should be thrown out along with the odious Hughes Amendment.

    anything civilian law enforcement agencies can have,so should other civilians without any obstacles other than showing an ID and swearing you are not a criminal,fugitive etc (in all fairness, only states should be able to prevent felons or addicts from owning guns-the federal government was never given such power)



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's not about 'offense,' it's about security.

    How often do you hear of employers abusing employee personal info?
    About as often as you hear about the government doing it.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    As yet, over decades, that has not been an issue. Employers have accountablity. Random people do not.
    You give your SSN to tons of people all the time. You're just being paranoid.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    About as often as you hear about the government doing it.
    Good. I cant think of it at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Good. I cant think of it at all.
    Then you're reasonably safe doing it.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You give your SSN to tons of people all the time. You're just being paranoid.
    Not really....and they are all businesses that can be held accountable.

    Business, employer....and strangers. Apples and oranges.

    With your SSN, anyone can access you bank account as long as they have one of your checks. Or see one of your checks.

    There are drawbacks to using SSNs for identification, as we are finding out. But that doesnt mean it's an intelligent move to start handing them out to strangers until more safeguards are in place.

    Unless you plan to? If not, why not?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then you're reasonably safe doing it.
    Strangers are not 'the govt.'
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Strangers are not 'the govt.'
    So you're personal friends with everyone in the government?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So you're personal friends with everyone in the government?
    I'm not personal friends with employers and businesses either.

    You lost this point in your argument. I didnt see you telling me if you handed out your SSN to random strangers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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