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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    If a certain weapon, is restricted from the public, how then is a criminal going to get it? Said weapons are traceable to their destination.
    Ummm, illegally?? You are aware that most illegal weapons can be made illegally I'm sure...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    If a certain weapon, is restricted from the public, how then is a criminal going to get it? Said weapons are traceable to their destination.
    If a certain narcotic, is restricted from the public, how then is a criminal going to get it.?

    there are millions of soviet bloc weapons on the world market. You seem to labor under the delusion that people who can bring in TONS of COCAINE From South America cannot smuggle in some of the millions of AK 47s and other obsolete but still extremely effective small arms that the Russians have been dumping on the world market



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Ummm, illegally?? You are aware that most illegal weapons can be made illegally I'm sure...
    His argument is that if we ban citizens (i.e. those of us who follow the law) from having guns, criminals will not be able to get them. If you actually think about his argument, he is advocating a complete gun ban



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You missed the point. The courts are now used to shape society in lieu of the Constitutional process. It's a lot easier to get a few to agree as opposed to a vast majority...
    That may be true, however a constitutional amendment uses an entirely different process. (I'm sure you know that, so I don't see the tie.) The courts haven't been too good about shaping people's opinions that the 2nd Amendment is the end all, nor have they been to good at proving to people there's nothing to worry about either.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    That may be true, however a constitutional amendment uses an entirely different process. (I'm sure you know that, so I don't see the tie.) The courts haven't been too good about shaping people's opinions that the 2nd Amendment is the end all, nor have they been to good at proving to people there's nothing to worry about either.
    does anyone have a clue what that means? the Supreme COurt's only PROPER role is ruling on the constitutionality of laws



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Ummm, illegally?? You are aware that most illegal weapons can be made illegally I'm sure...
    No; you missed it: weapons that are restricted - are out of the hands of the public - so a crook isn't going to make one. The question is, under such restrictions, how is a crook going to get one. For instance, we haven't had any any crazies lobbing mortar rounds onto play grounds...
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    That may be true, however a constitutional amendment uses an entirely different process. (I'm sure you know that, so I don't see the tie.) The courts haven't been too good about shaping people's opinions that the 2nd Amendment is the end all, nor have they been to good at proving to people there's nothing to worry about either.
    I'm sorry you're not able to see the relationship between the court determining societal norms and society itself...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You have no right to a job. You don't have to work where a background check is required.
    Which has nothing whatsoever to do with what I said. If it is somehow offensive to provide your SSN to get a gun registered, it should be equally offensive to have to provide your SSN to get a job, yet virtually nobody is bothered by the latter.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Employers are required by law to keep those things secure. It would be impossible to control if just anyone had your SSN.
    But not just anyone has your SSN. Employers aren't necessarily secure either, hackers could access your online employment records just as easily as they hack into Walmart.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    No; you missed it: weapons that are restricted - are out of the hands of the public - so a crook isn't going to make one. The question is, under such restrictions, how is a crook going to get one. For instance, we haven't had any any crazies lobbing mortar rounds onto play grounds...
    I can make a fully automatic weapon, but I wouldn't because it's illegal. Do you see the difference?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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