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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I spoke to your issue head on. If I had been any more direct you would have marks upon you from the direct impact.

    you have shown yourself to me wrong over and over


    you stated rights are given to us by the bill of rights.....if that was so then the USSC in 1833 when have taken Barron's case, but they stated the 5th did not apply to Barron......then why?..... if the bill of rights gives us our rights.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    ... and .........
    well using your standard for interpreting the 2A there is no way any of the clauses you claim authorizes Federal Gun control actually does so



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you have shown yourself to me wrong over and over


    you stated rights are given to us by the bill of rights.....if that was so then the USSC in 1833 when have taken Barron's case, but they stated the 5th did not apply to Barron......then why?..... if the bill of rights gives us our rights.
    YOu tell me. Its your interest - not mine. Where in the decision did the Court say that the Bill of Rights does not apply to American citizens? it seems to be a decision that did previous little other than save Baltimore some money and was ignored by many during the short 35 years that it was around before it was made irrelevant by the 14th Amendment.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well using your standard for interpreting the 2A there is no way any of the clauses you claim authorizes Federal Gun control actually does so
    why is that?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    why is that?
    more evasion. You claimed that "shall not be infringed" does not prevent "infringements" because "infringements" are not mentioned (LOL)

    so where is a power to control firearms stated in Sec 8?

    it isn't so it doesn't exist



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more evasion. You claimed that "shall not be infringed" does not prevent "infringements" because "infringements" are not mentioned (LOL)

    so where is a power to control firearms stated in Sec 8?

    it isn't so it doesn't exist
    Do you mean other than the first score or two score times I pointed it out to you?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more evasion. You claimed that "shall not be infringed" does not prevent "infringements" because "infringements" are not mentioned (LOL)

    so where is a power to control firearms stated in Sec 8?

    it isn't so it doesn't exist
    You cannot answer a simple question? Why is that?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you mean other than the first score or two score times I pointed it out to you?
    you merely claimed those clauses allowed it. reading them, and using your "exact words" test, your argument has no merit since gun control powers are not mentioned.

    see that is why I find your arguments completely dishonest. You claim "shall not be infringed" does not prevent infringements yet you claim that clauses that don't even hint at gun control powers actually confer that power to the federal government

    which means you have no standard or consistency when it comes to interpreting what the founders intended. You just do whatever you think supports government restrictions on our rights



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You cannot answer a simple question? Why is that?
    Its really silly to watch you constantly play that game when your answers are always evasive, invariably contradictory to what you have posted before and you constantly fail to answer questions as well

    I have always been consistent on this issue

    you have not been. Your only consistency is to oppose citizens' rights



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You cannot answer a simple question? Why is that?
    I did, you just don't like the answer



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