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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is not relevant. what is relevant is what did the founders intend for the 2A to do
    But why? Why should the individual opinions of people who lived in an America which no longer exists for all practical purposes matter to how the people of 2014 look at the document?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh because we are demonstrating that the Democrats have twisted and mutated the words and intent and force of the Constitution
    And why does that matter to anybody but the hardest core zealot and rabid hater of the Democratic Party?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But why? Why should the individual opinions of people who lived in an America which no longer exists for all practical purposes matter to how the people of 2014 look at the document?
    again you are evading and changing the issue

    the issue is not how politicians view the 2A today

    the issue is not how anti gun hacks want the 2A to read

    the issue is not even how politicians in black robes have interpreted or distorted the Amendment

    the issue is what was the purpose and meaning of the amendment as written



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But why? Why should the individual opinions of people who lived in an America which no longer exists for all practical purposes matter to how the people of 2014 look at the document?
    that's simple, if every generation gets to change the meaning of the Constitution, ...then it will have no meaning.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And why does that matter to anybody but the hardest core zealot and rabid hater of the Democratic Party?
    anyone who wants the constitution to be enforced and respected as written would be concerned. sadly, its the Democrat party that has defecated upon the 2A and has attempted to limit what it says in order to advance its nefarious agenda of gun bannings



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that's simple, if every generation gets to change the meaning of the Constitution, ...then it will have no meaning.
    those who think they have more minions with votes will always want to distort or limit the constitution



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you have been schooled on why that is a dishonest question

    you avoided it the first time so I have to assume its now a dilatory and dishonest question

    show me where an act of individual commerce was intended to covered by federal action and why this power was not apparent until Wickard
    aren't you forgetting about NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp., which was a case that was decided 5 years prior to wickard?

    and the case of Gibbons v. ogden was the first case invoking the commerce clause, not wickard.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    aren't you forgetting about NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp., which was a case that was decided 5 years prior to wickard?

    and the case of Gibbons v. ogden was the first case invoking the commerce clause, not wickard.

    again that is not relevant and Wickard was the poster child of FDR era court dishonesty



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    LOL, I guess the concept of being a citizen is something you cannot understand. This country was founded on private citizens who determined that the King of England had infringed on their natural rights as free men

    and what authority causes one to adopt the cloak of a running dog for government?
    i understand the concept of being a citizen. as citizens we delegate the responsibility of governing to people that we elect.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that's simple, if every generation gets to change the meaning of the Constitution, ...then it will have no meaning.
    the principles of the constitution remain the same, only the means of fullfilling those principles have changed.
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