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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lets cut through all the mental masturbation, high school debate hypotheticals etc

    what do you BELIEVE the founders intended as to federal gun control and back that up with the plain language of their documents (not limited to the USC and the Bill of Rights)

    ..yeah baby...

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    its all those rich foods i eat, while i enjoy myself in my 5500 sq ft mountain cabin in Lake Tahoe
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in terms of legally yes though congress can override the Supreme Court decisions in certain cases
    but definitely not the ghost of James Madison.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    but definitely not the ghost of James Madison.
    however, Madison's writings are far more useful in deciding what the founders intended than whatpolitical whores who wear robes said 140 years after the fact



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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lets cut through all the mental masturbation, high school debate hypotheticals etc

    what do you BELIEVE the founders intended as to federal gun control and back that up with the plain language of their documents (not limited to the USC and the Bill of Rights)
    YES.

    the second amendment says that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. IT does not say that congress is forbidden to make Any laws that relate to firearms. the 2nd amendment says that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed, but the constitution does not contain any language that makes fire arms completely immune from legislative acts.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    however, Madison's writings are far more useful in deciding what the founders intended than whatpolitical whores who wear robes said 140 years after the fact
    How so? Where is it written that the personal opinion of somebody who lived in an America which for all practical purposes no longer exists suppose to carry all that weight today?
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    is Madison...... IRRELEVANT to his own work?
    Maddison was the architect who created the concept of the constitution.

    John Marshall was one of the engineers and builders that brought that concept into reality.
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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    YES.

    the second amendment says that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. IT does not say that congress is forbidden to make Any laws that relate to firearms. the 2nd amendment says that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed, but the constitution does not contain any language that makes fire arms completely immune from legislative acts.
    sure it does..because the 2nd is a restriction on the federal government.....show where in the general powers of congress article 1 section8 , where it has powers that deal into the personal life's of the people.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Maddison was the architect who created the concept of the constitution.

    John Marshall was one of the engineers and builders that brought that concept into reality.
    Madison worked on the framework of the Constitution months before the convention.

    Marshall didn't write the bill of rights...Madison ..did.

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    Re: Do you think the second amendment needs amended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    YES.

    the second amendment says that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. IT does not say that congress is forbidden to make Any laws that relate to firearms. the 2nd amendment says that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed, but the constitution does not contain any language that makes fire arms completely immune from legislative acts.
    that is stupid on two counts

    shall not be infringed means no such laws

    and since congress was not delegated the power to make those laws

    you fail again

    you seem to labor under the statist delusion that if congress is not absolutely totally and completely forbidden from doing something it can do that

    can congress degree how long a skirt your would be girl friend can wear? there is no constitutional prohibition on such a law in the bill of rights


    or what color underwear you must wear while in federal court?



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