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Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

Is there such a thing as White Privilege?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 59.5%
  • No

    Votes: 34 40.5%

  • Total voters
    84
Yes, anybody who denies it obviously isn't paying attention. One needs only to look at incarceration statistics, racial profiling, the proportion of black men/women victim of police brutality, poverty rates in primarily black neighborhoods, etc. to see the white privilege. It's not as prevalent as it used to be, thankfully, but it still exists and we can't fix the problem when a good chunk of the population calls you a "race baiter" simply for pointing it out.

Blacks don't commit crimes on a disproportional level? They are just incarcerated for being black? OMG Has BO fixed this? If not why not?
 
Yeah, those black neighborhoods are full of rich people. It's amazing how many of them are Fortune 500 CEOs pulling down 7 figure salaries. :roll:

Some of them are. Many of them are, in fact...black lawyers, black doctors, black stockbrokers, black teachers, black accountants, black restaurant owners, black CEOs, black actors, black entertainers, black business owners, black sales people....we even have a black President, black Attorney General, black SCOTUS judge.....

There is nothing prohibiting a smart, hardworking black person from rising to the very pinnacle of success in this country. We have living proof of that. This isn't 1862 anymore.
 
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Depends on where you are, but yes. There's a suburb of Buffalo (which I won't name) where "Driving While Black" is almost certainly a crime.

Does that mean white people never get stopped?
 
I wouldn't call it white privilege. I'd call it discrimination against minorities. And yes, that does exist.
Privilege is simply the other side of discrimination. People of color have the disadvantage of dealing with racial discrimination as a rule while white people have the advantage, or privilege, of being of not dealing with racial discrimination as a rule. It's important to acknowledge the privilege aspect in addition to the discrimination aspect so that people who are privileged understand how it plays a role in their lives.
 
While I don't agree with Rocket's comments, where did he say "being white" exempted someone from being stopped by the cops?

Pointing out that blacks get stopped in that area is only relevant to this discussion of whites in that area do not get stopped.

If everybody is stopped, then there is no difference in regards to skin color.
 
Having worked in the poor parts of Washington DC, and receiving deferential treatment far above and beyond what I actually earned, I can tell you without any doubt that white privilege exists. It is ingrained in our society. And it is not merely whites with power using their power to benefit one another and not other peoples. It is the expectation that permeates every interaction between people of different ethnicities in this country. It is the lifetime learning by non-whites that when they don't treat whites with deference, consequences follow, and when one wants favors, one gets them by sucking up to whites, not to others.

Anecdotes, no matter how true, do not make data, however. If one wants to see the reality of white privilege, one need only understand that a child born to black parents is five times as likely to grow up in poverty as a child born to white parents. Instrumental to denying the very real privileges and oppressions of race in this country is to insist that these black families have brought it upon themselves, as if anyone with the means to change those kinds of circumstances would fail to do so.

Of course white privilege exists. And racial oppression exists. In often insidious and invisible ways. Overt forms like slavery and Jim Crow are gone, but the attitudes that inform them are often uncomfortably proximate to us.

Does your study compare in both cases 2 parent families or single parents?
 
Pointing out that blacks get stopped in that area is only relevant to this discussion of whites in that area do not get stopped.

If everybody is stopped, then there is no difference in regards to skin color.

Pointing out that blacks get pulled over doesn't say ANYTHING about whites getting pulled over or that they are exempt. You are making the implication, which is fine and is your opinion, but in no way proves what you are saying. You are guessing he means that "Whites are exempt". Guess is fun, but doesn't prove a dman thing.

Until you can show me the words "White people are exempt" from his statements, everything is just your opinion and not fact. FACT is he didn't say that and nothing you can say changes that FACT.
 
The police in this town are notorious for pulling over more black drivers than white drivers. Which might make sense if there were that many more black people living there, but the village is very predominantly white.

So why are they being pulled over?

Are blacks in that area more likely to be involved in crime?
 
Could you point out these neighbourhoods to me? I've been living in LA a little while now and I'd sure like to avoid these areas!!

I had to drive through parts of south central a few times and been fine so I'm surprised there are these "large portions" of LA where I am likely to get shot....

You must drive with your eyes closed.

Try the corner of Florence and Normandie to start with.

Have you ever been in South Central or Compton on New Years Eve?
 
Sure. In general, the ethnic groups that make up the majority in any given society enjoy advantages over minorities. Most who take issue with the idea have a gross misunderstanding of the concept, and/or are simply in denial.

Or perhaps its the word "WHITE" that makes people defensive? MAJORITY PRIVILEGE would be less racial IMO. In most conversations about so called white privilege, it always seems to be a accusation and then always followed by lording. Many take the accusation as the equivalent of being called a racist or worse; that being of light skin color means that you belong to a evil oppressive race. That is why its my opinion that the term white privilege should be retired as being a tool of conflict, which is viewed by the majority of those being bestowed with the title as a insult. It certainly isnt helping race relations using the words 'white privilege'. In fact in most cases when this topic comes up it seems to create more animosity between Caucasians and every other race.
 
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So why are they being pulled over?

Are blacks in that area more likely to be involved in crime?

Let me give you an example. If you are black in that village, you can get stopped for going 3 mph over the speed limit. Whites get at least 10.
 
Privilege is simply the other side of discrimination. People of color have the disadvantage of dealing with racial discrimination as a rule while white people have the advantage, or privilege, of being of not dealing with racial discrimination as a rule. It's important to acknowledge the privilege aspect in addition to the discrimination aspect so that people who are privileged understand how it plays a role in their lives.

I think the OP is talking about things like a white person is not thought to be a their when in a small store but a black person is.

is that white privilege really?

Did the store owner open his doors with the notion that all white customers are honest and blacks are not, or did experience change how he ran his store?
 
Privilege is simply the other side of discrimination. People of color have the disadvantage of dealing with racial discrimination as a rule while white people have the advantage, or privilege, of being of not dealing with racial discrimination as a rule. It's important to acknowledge the privilege aspect in addition to the discrimination aspect so that people who are privileged understand how it plays a role in their lives.

I don't think there's an "other side" to it. They're the same thing called by different names.
 
Pointing out that blacks get pulled over doesn't say ANYTHING about whites getting pulled over or that they are exempt. You are making the implication, which is fine and is your opinion, but in no way proves what you are saying. You are guessing he means that "Whites are exempt". Guess is fun, but doesn't prove a dman thing.

Until you can show me the words "White people are exempt" from his statements, everything is just your opinion and not fact. FACT is he didn't say that and nothing you can say changes that FACT.

We are talking about white privilege here as defined in the OP

"As Wiki defines it: "White privilege (or white skin privilege) is a term for societal privileges that benefit white people beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people in the same social, political, or economic circumstances"Using this definition, he pointed out that blacks get stopped because whites do not, or there would be no white privilege.

If everybody is getting pulled over there, then the blacks are really notbeing put upon, are they?

He also didn't tell us if there are reasons blacks are pulled over other than their skin color.
 
Let me give you an example. If you are black in that village, you can get stopped for going 3 mph over the speed limit. Whites get at least 10.

Has that been proven, or is that an assumption on your part?
 
Let me give you an example. If you are black in that village, you can get stopped for going 3 mph over the speed limit. Whites get at least 10.

In your original post, you said the blacks were pulled over for having black skin, which is a crime in Buffalo, not for illegal activity.

Are you changing your assertion now?
 
On the whole, probably to an extent, but I don't know how one can actually measure it.
 
In your original post, you said the blacks were pulled over for having black skin, which is a crime in Buffalo, not for illegal activity.

Are you changing your assertion now?

No, that's not what I said at all. "Driving While Black" is the name used to describe the phenomenon. Take this as an example - this person was questioned by police because he's black.

‘Running while black’ seen as reason for police stop in Town of Tonawanda - City & Region - The Buffalo News
 
This goes further, more nationwide:

DWB STORIES

Do you really believe that black people drive worse?

Blacks account for more than 70 percent of the nation's traffic stops while comprising less than 20 percent of its drivers.
 
Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

As Wiki defines it: "White privilege (or white skin privilege) is a term for societal privileges that benefit white people beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people in the same social, political, or economic circumstances" White privilege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, there is such a thing as white privilege. It isn't the concept that when you are born white, you are born wealthy. It's small things that make the social experience different for non-whites. For instance, seeing a name on a resume` that looks Latino can sometimes come with the assumption that the person will not speak English well and, thus, remove them from candidacy for the job. Standardized tests can often be slanted toward the white experience by referencing Anglo culture and academics stress European literature as a requirement while making other cultural literature elective.
 
The poll selections should have been broken down into white and not white options.

As in:

1) I am white - yes
2) I am white - no
3) I am not white - yes
4) I am not white - no


I wonder how many of the "no" answers come from white people? I'm guessing 100%
 
The poll selections should have been broken down into white and not white options.

As in:

1) I am white - yes
2) I am white - no
3) I am not white - yes
4) I am not white - no


I wonder how many of the "no" answers come from white people? I'm guessing 100%
You would be wrong.
 
You must drive with your eyes closed.

Try the corner of Florence and Normandie to start with.

Have you ever been in South Central or Compton on New Years Eve?

I pretty much stay above 35th st and West of Arlington if I can help it. I don't venture anywhere past Jefferson Park except in the most dire of circumstances.
 
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