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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

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    Again, see my above post you quoted.
    That is a subjective opinion that is incorrect about my objectivity... anything else?
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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Mays Lives View Post
    First off, I'm not a liberal so can it with your assumptions about me. Second, there is no desperation in my explanation but there certainly is a lot of overly excited utterance and unneeded pissiness in your responses. If you can't continue in a civil tone, we won't be continuing at all as your level of education on the topic that you are commenting nor your obvious ignorance on the same are of no consequence to me and I will not waste time trying to engage some keyboard cowboy who finds aggressive posturing to be an acceptable substitute for dialog.

    That said: You explained the concept of white privilege in the post above: Maybe he interviews Derek because he ASSUMES Thuc may not speak English as well. White privilege. The assumption that because someone is white they may have certain skills or social experience that the nonwhite doesn't. It is an assumption of aptitude in specific areas that may or may not be true but is accepted as truth based on the perceived ethnicity of the subject and all the social experience that whites are assumed to have had.

    That is one example of white privilege. And for the record, there is also minority privilege. There is no accusation or judgment behind the term white privilege.
    That one example with that one specific outcome might be white privilege, but maybe it isn't.

    That said, maybe Joe is black and picks Derek because he thinks that he is black too...

    Maybe Joe is a sexist and picks Derek because he is a man.

    Maybe Joe likes Asian chicks and picks Thuc.

    What are all those examples of then?

    You can't just pick the one specific example you want, label it exactly what you want despite the fact that it might not be what you want and then affirm that you are correct in your premise.

    That is just silly...
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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Loaded example... any hiring manager will look at both resume's with interest and you are assuming bias based off of race/names/etc.

    White privilege is an excuse that people have come up with to find fault at their own failures or shortcomings.

    I took a class on this and lasted about 10 minutes until it was clear that it was an exercise in racism and was getting screamed at by two clack women in the class for not agreeing with the premise.
    I'm sorry for your experience with the two black women. It is clear they didn't understand the concept of white privilege either. It could have been a poor misrepresentation by the teacher; I don't know.

    If you want a clear example of how it is real, look at what Sabanist posted in response. He said, "Maybe he interviews derek because he assumes thuc may not speak english as well. I woudnt blame him. If im a busy manager, im trying to make my job as simple as i can."

    Now if you can read that statement and not see that he's basically saying (and here is where racism does play into it): My life would be easier if I interview the guy because his name sounds like he can speak english (read: he's more Anglofied) better than the little yellow girl.

    His assumption was false. It isn't always but it is an acceptable assumption in a white culture. That is how the experience changes for a nonwhite from that of a white person.

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Mays Lives View Post
    I'm sorry for your experience with the two black women. It is clear they didn't understand the concept of white privilege either. It could have been a poor misrepresentation by the teacher; I don't know.

    If you want a clear example of how it is real, look at what Sabanist posted in response. He said, "Maybe he interviews derek because he assumes thuc may not speak english as well. I woudnt blame him. If im a busy manager, im trying to make my job as simple as i can."

    Now if you can read that statement and not see that he's basically saying (and here is where racism does play into it): My life would be easier if I interview the guy because his name sounds like he can speak english (read: he's more Anglofied) better than the little yellow girl.

    His assumption was false. It isn't always but it is an acceptable assumption in a white culture. That is how the experience changes for a nonwhite from that of a white person.
    Your assumption is false, that is english speaking privilege

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That one example with that one specific outcome might be white privilege, but maybe it isn't.

    That said, maybe Joe is black and picks Derek because he thinks that he is black too...

    Maybe Joe is a sexist and picks Derek because he is a man.

    Maybe Joe likes Asian chicks and picks Thuc.

    What are all those examples of then?

    You can't just pick the one specific example you want, label it exactly what you want despite the fact that it might not be what you want and then affirm that you are correct in your premise.

    That is just silly...
    Maybe maybe maybe.

    You can what if anything into the ground. However, that example is just one contextual anecdote of how white privilege comes into play. I agree if this was isolated or a unique experience for the nonwhite in America, then you would have a point. Joe was either a jerk or an idiot who made assumptions and missed out on a good employee.

    Or maybe I didn't give the outcome yet because maybe Joe was me and Thuc was offered the interview just to cover myself on the discrimination front and has been a valuable employee for years now and while Derek was not offered employment, he became a great friend and we still enjoy watching the world cup down at the corner pub close to our apartment. Maybe the anecdote above was just an answer to an essay question asking if I had ever seen instances where white privilege came into play and, if so, what impact did it have. Maybe the names and particulars have been changed for privacy reasons.

    The outcome and whether the anecdote is personal or not are not particularly important. The example of white privilege is found in the initial assumptions Joe made about the candidates based on the perceived Anglocentricity of just their names.

    Here's another example, and be honest: If you see the two names Tyrone and Bernard, which do you think is the black one?

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    Your assumption is false, that is english speaking privilege
    Which you connected directly to the anglocentricity of their names alone. You made an assumption, and forgive my boorish language here, because Derek Murray isn't likely to speak the kind of "Engrish" an Asian named Thuc Chen would be expected to speak.

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Continue to repeat it doesnt make it true. Derek murray doesnt equate to anglo. You are arriving at the result which you desire

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    Continue to repeat it doesnt make it true. Derek murray doesnt equate to anglo. You are arriving at the result which you desire
    If you are going to sit here and try to convince anyone that the names Murray and Chen don't bring with them certain assumptions grounded in the perceived ethnicity of the individuals, there are only two possibilities. A) That you are being argumentative for entertainment (which I get, totally and am guilty of myself quite often) or B) that you are having a hard time rebutting the argument presented but won't allow yourself to just say so (another situation I totally get and have found myself guilty of) so you are just making categorical denials instead of constructed arguments.

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Of course there is such a thing as 'white privilege' in some places.
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