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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    I dont think there is any white privilege. There is a rich privilege. Most people fail to realize the difference.
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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I dont think there is any white privilege. There is a rich privilege. Most people fail to realize the difference.
    I'd also suggest another .... political priviledge from politicians, which at some point intersects and includes the rich.
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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'd also suggest another .... political priviledge from politicians, which at some point intersects and includes the rich.
    I agree. Political privilege certainly would be included in that. Especially since politicians are the rich, and their strings are pulled by the rich.
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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I dont think there is any white privilege. There is a rich privilege. Most people fail to realize the difference.
    With all due respect, I believed this way and I could have been quoted the same thing you said verbatim because I didn't understand what white privilege is. If you'll allow, let me give you an example that may make it clearer for you.

    Thuc Chen comes from a wealthy Vietnamese family who made a fortune bottling and selling a hot sauce recipe they brought to America from their remote village in their native country. She's grown up her entire life in the San Fernando Valley in California and has a business degree from UCLA. She plays tennis, loves shopping and her favorite show is Gossip Girl. She is a SoCal girl through and through.

    Derek Murray has just arrived from a remote village called Swtragh in Northern Ireland. It lies about 120 miles north of the town of Maghera. He has a charming gaelic accent that sometimes makes him hard to understand, especially when he is excited. He has a similar business degree as Thuc's from a prominent university which put him in debt with student loans; his parents were poor and could not afford to pay for his education. He never had television growing up and he isn't much for keeping with current events. He'd rather be out playing football than indoors when he has spare time.

    Joe is a hiring manager at a hip PR firm. He has a position open for an accounts supervisor. The requirements for the position are that candidate holds a business degree, has excellent communication skills, and can interact engagingly with clients in the media industry. Joe receives two resumes: one with the name Thuc Chen at the top and the other headlined Derek Murray.

    Which do you think Joe is going to give immediate attention considering his requirements for the job?

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Mays Lives View Post
    With all due respect, I believed this way and I could have been quoted the same thing you said verbatim because I didn't understand what white privilege is. If you'll allow, let me give you an example that may make it clearer for you.

    Thuc Chen comes from a wealthy Vietnamese family who made a fortune bottling and selling a hot sauce recipe they brought to America from their remote village in their native country. She's grown up her entire life in the San Fernando Valley in California and has a business degree from UCLA. She plays tennis, loves shopping and her favorite show is Gossip Girl. She is a SoCal girl through and through.

    Derek Murray has just arrived from a remote village called Swtragh in Northern Ireland. It lies about 120 miles north of the town of Maghera. He has a charming gaelic accent that sometimes makes him hard to understand, especially when he is excited. He has a similar business degree as Thuc's from a prominent university which put him in debt with student loans; his parents were poor and could not afford to pay for his education. He never had television growing up and he isn't much for keeping with current events. He'd rather be out playing football than indoors when he has spare time.

    Joe is a hiring manager at a hip PR firm. He has a position open for an accounts supervisor. The requirements for the position are that candidate holds a business degree, has excellent communication skills, and can interact engagingly with clients in the media industry. Joe receives two resumes: one with the name Thuc Chen at the top and the other headlined Derek Murray.

    Which do you think Joe is going to give immediate attention considering his requirements for the job?
    I see what you are trying to do but tell me, if he simply has a resume, how does he know derek isnt black? Oops.

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Most Asians in America come from well educated households from east Asia ... it's the middle and upper classes that send their kids to America to study, or come here to work.
    I see, this has become the token defense of the left. So? If there is white privilege those white kids would be doing better socioeconomically as they entered the work force. But it aint so.

    The truth is that if both white and asian families put a higher priority on education and maintain the family unit, its no wonder they do better.

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    based off your question, definition and the simplistic yes or no framing theres only one answer and that answer is yes, there is.
    now having said that it is a much deeper conversation than that but yes the fact is it exists in a form, the form can be honestly debated but not the existence.
    im sticking with my original comment above

    nothing in this thread so far as even logically hinted it doesnt "exist"
    and there certainly isnt any accurate or factual based logic that says it doesnt
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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    im sticking with my original comment above

    nothing in this thread so far as even logically hinted it doesnt "exist"
    and there certainly isnt any accurate or factual based logic that says it doesnt
    Where is the accurate factual based logic that says it does?

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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    I see what you are trying to do but tell me, if he simply has a resume, how does he know derek isnt black? Oops.
    There is no "oops" on my part. Even if "Derek" is black, when held up to another name like Thuc Chen, there is an assumption of an Anglo centric education and experience that comes with Derek's name alone.

    The concept of "white privilege" does not carry an accusation nor a judgment against white people or culture. It is simply an assessment of the difference between the cultural experiences of whites and non whites and how being white in an anglo centric culture will carry certain benefits and privileges that those who are obviously not white will not enjoy. It's no different than saying there is minority privilege as well in this country. It's just two sides of the same coin.

    And all I am trying to do is explain the concept with examples because it appears people are getting stuck on the denotations of "white" and "privilege" and not the contextual definition of the phrase "white privilege". The only "oops" in all of this is your failure to understand the content to which you were replying with much unneeded snark and passive aggression rather than engaging an informative dialog. I will leave you to all that.
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    Re: Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

    And you are erroneously hung up on the belief that white privilege is real, it isnt.

    What if the business owner is asian?

    Not to mention that unlike what you may desperately want to believe the manager recognizes accomplishments of one candidate over the other. Maybe he interviews derek because he assumes thuc may not speak english as well. I woudnt blame him. If im a busy manager, im trying to make my job as simple as i can.

    To liberals its always gotta be because he is white. Good luck with that

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