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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    What was really ****ed up about it is that the cop wasn't even the worst one, though he was bad enough. The worst one was the first responder. I had called for an ambulance. As soon as they found out he was on painkillers, they basically decided he was a druggie and called the cops.

    I was so furious. These people were supposed to be helping him, and he got treated like a criminal instead, by both the police and medical professionals. It was almost like having no help at all.

    The only thing that saved me, honestly, was my dad doing with me pretty much what you did with your son, plus an extra lesson on "use their stereotypes against them and be the damsel."

    Thank you. Sorry for the rant. As you can see, I'm not over it.

    I understand. Thanks to this so-called War on Drugs, it has gotten to the point in this country where people with legitimate pain issues are treated like druggies by both LE and medical personnel, and we seem to think it is more important to keep anyone from getting high than making sure people with serious or chronic pain issues get the meds they need to manage it. Appalling.

    We need to declare an end to the WoD. It isn't working; like Prohibition it is just making things worse.

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    Re: cops

    I don't have anything against cops. Hell! There's a good chance that I might wind up as one them if the military doesn't pan out.

    I can't say that I've had any particularly poor experiences with them either. I actually get off more often than not.

    However, I will say that I occasionally find our country's approach to law enforcement to be rather counter-productive and overly draconian in general. A lot of cops these days are basically armed to the teeth, and trained to "shoot first and ask questions later" with an attitude to match.

    For that reason, you should, at the very least, be wary of them.

    Do the wrong thing around the wrong cop in the wrong mood, and you might very well wind up dead.

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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I don't have anything against cops. Hell! There's a good chance that I might wind up as one them if the military doesn't pan out.

    I can't say that I've had any particularly poor experiences with them either. I actually get off more often than not.

    However, I will say that I occasionally find our country's approach to law enforcement to be rather counter-productive and overly draconian in general. A lot of cops these days are basically armed to the teeth, and trained to "shoot first and ask questions later" with an attitude to match.

    For that reason, you should, at the very least, be wary of them.

    Do the wrong thing around the wrong cop in the wrong mood, and you might very well wind up dead
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    This is true, and it is not supposed to be that way. In a free country, lawful citizens should not fear police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    This is true, and it is not supposed to be that way. In a free country, lawful citizens should not fear police.
    Exactly. The sight of a police officer is rarely the relief or source of comfort that it should be.

    It generally means that you're either about to be harassed, fined for something ridiculous, or that you're in a dangerous area.

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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I understand. Thanks to this so-called War on Drugs, it has gotten to the point in this country where people with legitimate pain issues are treated like druggies by both LE and medical personnel, and we seem to think it is more important to keep anyone from getting high than making sure people with serious or chronic pain issues get the meds they need to manage it. Appalling.

    We need to declare an end to the WoD. It isn't working; like Prohibition it is just making things worse.
    The funny thing about it is that my dad was actually under-medicating his pain pretty much the whole way through his cancer (I mean, seriously, is there anything more legit than cancer?) and couldn't be talked into taking more than the bare minimum it took to keep him sane. He hated the pain meds.

    I had to resort to showing the cop a picture with a timestamp of him 2 months prior looking dramatically healthier, and his earlier paperwork with his diagnosis. They should have been able to just look at him and know he was sick. It was obvious.

    But anyone with an oxy prescription, no matter what their condition, is just a drug peddling low life apparently, especially a big man. This needs to stop.

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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    The funny thing about it is that my dad was actually under-medicating his pain pretty much the whole way through his cancer (I mean, seriously, is there anything more legit than cancer?) and couldn't be talked into taking more than the bare minimum it took to keep him sane. He hated the pain meds.

    I had to resort to showing the cop a picture with a timestamp of him 2 months prior looking dramatically healthier, and his earlier paperwork with his diagnosis. They should have been able to just look at him and know he was sick. It was obvious.

    But anyone with an oxy prescription, no matter what their condition, is just a drug peddling low life apparently, especially a big man. This needs to stop.


    Agreed. I have friends and relatives with legitimate chronic-pain issues (including one disabled veteran!) who have been treated like criminals over their pain meds. Disgusting.

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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    We've discussed refusing to consent to search. I never give permission for searches, but I do so very politely and carefully.

    My son is 18. While he has good manners he is not eloquent when upset, and I don't want him scaring the police into something rash.
    If they want to search you, your car or your house, they will do so. Your permission is de facto irrelevant even if de jure it is supposed to be relevant.

    They smell alcohol...
    My dog smells drugs...
    You clenched your butt cheeks...
    You look nervous...

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    They even seize your money and force you to spend hours and more money to get it back.
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    Re: cops

    In this day and age, I do think most cops are decent folk trying to do their job.

    I still hold a shred of suspicion towards them by default unless I personally know them. Just act properly and carefully, and you should be fine.
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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    You know you make me wonder one thing. Has there been more bad shootings than their used to be or is it just nowadays with video cameras everywhere bad shootings are being found out about.
    In my opinion it's the latter. It's just more in the news when it does happen. A lot of it is the 24 hour cable news networks. Everything is sensationalized. Just as with the OJ Simpson murders, the Trayvon Martin affair, that young mother who killed her baby girl and got away with it, etc.

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    Re: cops

    The question is flawed because I have no idea what you mean by "most cops are good/bad." I'm not going to say that cops are inherently bad. A police force is a societal necessity and a sweeping statement claiming everyone in a certain field is corrupted would be heavily misguided.

    At the same time, serious reforms are needed to reduce police brutality and prevent the United States from becoming a police state. I do think that the police are a bit too restrictive on some trivial issues. For example, in regards to speeding or using a phone while driving, I do believe that these should be illegal, but some of the speed traps set up by police cars can be irrational.

    So I didn't vote, because I don't consider myself pro-police or anti-police.
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