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  • I lean left and think most cops are good

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  • I lean left and think most cops are bad

    1 1.92%
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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    I think you are correct about dealing with criminals having a negative effect on them. I watch that COPS show now and then and wonder how those guys take it dealing with these drunken drug addicted losers all the time. Sometimes I find myself saying, " Do society a favor and shoot that guy". I think I would make a bad cop.
    THat's one of the reasons I couldn't be a cop. My impulse would be to go rogue.
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    Re: cops

    You hear someone bashing in car windows in your neighborhood and there is nothing makes you more happy than seeing a police car coming down that street. You are driving down a stretch of road and see a police car ahead and immediately you take your foot off the gas pedal and try to avoid eye contact with him.

    I don't know of any other profession where one can get such mixed reactions from coming into contact with. It is a tough job and luckily they are often the buffer between you and the scum in our society.

    When someone sees a soldier in an airport people will go up and thank him for his service to our country. I have never seen anyone go up to a policeman and thank him for his service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post

    When someone sees a soldier in an airport people will go up and thank him for his service to our country. I have never seen anyone go up to a policeman and thank him for his service.
    I suspect that's because the serviceman has no authority over the regular citizen, and the cop does.
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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Luck of the draw ! ( pun intended )

    They're probably getting the coffee and donuts .. ( it's a joke ! )
    I expect it's more likely that women have to emote about the situation first.
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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I expect it's more likely that women have to emote about the situation first.
    heh heh heh... you get a laugh from that... I'd be drawn and quartered for it.... comedic sexism being what it is.

    ha... my mind just ran through scads of "woman jokes"... but I prefer to live today without being skewered.

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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    As a general rule, I don't have much use for them. I've met a few that I genuinely liked, but for the most part, they are pretty uptight and cocky. Basically, they are a necessity, and unfortunately, dealing with the criminal element seems to have its negative effects on most of them.
    Their training has changed.
    We, the public, are not them. They have become a legal gang.
    I cannot trust them anymore because you never know which kind is going to interact with you. That makes me sad and even a little mad.
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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    I'm curious what peoples views are on cops and if their is any correlation between their politics and their opinion on this. I'm pretty conservative for the most part and have always given the benefit of the doubt to the cop but I have to admit that lately there seems to be a rash of bad shootings where I really have to question the cops judgment. I personally know a couple of guys that recently became cops that when I found out it made me exclaim WTF? These guys were both losers in life that couldn't hold a job and now in their 30s they are cops. It makes me wonder if it has become harder to get people that want to go into this line of work. Regardless of that when push comes to shove I tend to believe the cops version until the evidence all comes in.
    I think that the vast majority of cops are good. Think about where we would be without them. Sure....there are a few bad ones. However that is what review boards and Internal Affairs investigations are for. And to be honest.....what you are seeing as a rash of bad shootings is just the fact that today, they are more on the news media's radar. I don't think there is an actual uptick in bad shootings.

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    Re: cops

    i lean left on many issues, and i think that police are good for the most part.

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    Re: cops

    I can't answer the poll, as it is too left/right and too absolute... but as an ex-cop I'd like to comment.


    Police are like everyone else in one sense; there are all kinds of personalities in every department. You've got your starry-eyed rookies with "To Protect and Serve!" written on their brains; your tired old hands who just want to get through the shift with a minimum of bother; your "by the Book" uptight pricks with sticks up their @#$#$es; your para-military gung-ho types who are over-eager to use force; and yes you have a few outright bad ones who revel in their own authority and ability to lord it over the general public.

    In my experience, about a third are really GOOD cops; another third or so are mediocre but tolerable; and nearly a third have no business wearing a badge.


    That was close to 20 years ago. At that time I was disturbed by the trends of militarization within the police department, which was really just getting started, as well as the enhanced and aggressive search and seizure rules coming out of the so-called Drug War, making the police mindset more "war-zone" related and more "us vs everyone".

    On top of that is a natural tendency, after spending some years dealing with scumbags and also with citizens not-having-a-good-day, to view humanity with a jaundiced eye and assume all cits encountered are potentially scum or problematic until proven otherwise.

    More and more, politicians and their laws are turning Peace Officers into Government Enforcers and Revenue Gatherers, and this isn't helping LE-Citizen relations at all. Nor is the recurring image of menacing-looking black-armored cops with helmets, face masks and military rifles comforting to the citizenry.

    Add in extreme media and Internet hype over any questionable police use-of-force and you have a strong recipe for citizen unhappiness, or even hatred, or even "push-back" acts by the more extreme.


    Here in my home county, we had a recent incident of a man targeting badge-wearers for murder. He murdered two security guards and then attacked a police station, badly wounding a cop before being shot dead. There's also Ferguson, and the Bundy Ranch, and the other attacks on police that made national news. The citizenry is turning against LE, and the negativity towards LE is becoming more and more mainstream.

    It doesn't help that LE and Gov response to a lot of this LOOKS like "closing ranks and protecting its own".



    We have a serious problem developing, and it needs to be addressed on a national level and soon. Some of it is more perceptual than reality, but some of it is real.

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    Re: cops

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    I'm curious what peoples views are on cops and if their is any correlation between their politics and their opinion on this. I'm pretty conservative for the most part and have always given the benefit of the doubt to the cop but I have to admit that lately there seems to be a rash of bad shootings where I really have to question the cops judgment. I personally know a couple of guys that recently became cops that when I found out it made me exclaim WTF? These guys were both losers in life that couldn't hold a job and now in their 30s they are cops. It makes me wonder if it has become harder to get people that want to go into this line of work. Regardless of that when push comes to shove I tend to believe the cops version until the evidence all comes in.
    I'm not willing to wager a guess on what it breaks down like statistically. But I'm left-ish, and I mostly avoid cops. I have personally had bad run-ins with them (not regarding my own activity, but actually me calling for help for someone else).

    I know there are good ones. I had a good working relationship with a couple of cops who routinely patrolled the area when I was working on a paper. A couple who, to my shock, came up and thanked me when I wrote an editorial critical of US drug policy.

    But I've seen some nasty ones. I've heard an off-duty cop talk about how he loves getting an opportunity to beat a black person down. I've dealt with cops treating sick people and victims like criminals. And of course, I read the news, and I see the way militarization and lack of accountability is affecting police.

    As a cute, young, white woman, cops never look at me twice, and I doubt they ever will. That's stereotypes for ya, and in this one case, I guess it benefits me. But I don't trust them, and if I'm with a man, I trust them even less. The way I've seen them treat men challenges my cool.

    I avoid them because I don't know if any given cop I run into is good or bad, and just because I'm not doing anything doesn't mean I or whoever I'm with won't get messed with, unfortunately.

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