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  • I am a REPUBLICAN and I FAVOR the actions taken AND support grounded troops

    2 8.00%
  • I am a DEMOCRAT and I FAVOR the actions taken AND support grounded troops

    1 4.00%
  • I am INDEPENDENT and I FAVOR the actions taken AND support grounded troops

    5 20.00%
  • I am a REPUBLICAN and I FAVOR the actions taken BUT do not support grounded troops

    1 4.00%
  • I am a DEMOCRAT and I FAVOR the actions taken BUT do not support grounded troops

    2 8.00%
  • I am INDEPENDENT and I FAVOR the actions taken BUT do not support grounded troops

    4 16.00%
  • I am a REPUBLICAN and I OPPOSE the actions taken

    1 4.00%
  • I am a DEMOCRAT and I OPPOSE the actions taken

    3 12.00%
  • I am INDEPENDENT and I OPPOSE the actions taken

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    Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Hi, I am doing an assignment for my sociology class, and I would like to hear from the League community about what they think about what's been going on in the Middle East currently. So my question is,

    1. Do you Favor or Oppose the military action the United States is taking in Iraq and Syria against Islamic Militants commonly known as ISIS?

    Also,
    2. Would you Favor or Oppose the United States sending ground troops to Iraq and Syria in order to assist groups in those countries that are fighting the Islamic Militants commonly known as ISIS?

    Also, state if you are a Republican, Democrat, or Independent.

    If you are unfamiliar with the current issue (which in these forums, I'd hope it's unlikely), here are some fast facts you can catch up with on CNN
    ISIS Fast Facts - CNN.com

    July 2014 - In Syria, all the cities between Deir Ezzor city and the Iraq border have fallen to ISIS, says Omar Abu Leila, a spokesman for the rebel Free Syrian Army.
    July 3, 2014 - ISIS takes control of a major Syrian oil field, al-Omar. It is the country's largest oil field and can produce 75,000 barrels of oil daily.
    July 17, 2014 - In Syria's Homs province, ISIS claims to have killed 270 people after storming and seizing the Shaer gas field.
    July 24, 2014 - ISIS militants blow up Jonah's tomb, a holy site in Mosul.
    August 8, 2014 - Two U.S. F/A-18 jet fighters bomb artillery of Sunni Islamic extremists in Iraq. President Barack Obama has authorized "targeted airstrikes" if needed to protect U.S. personnel from fighters with ISIS. The U.S. military also could use airstrikes to prevent what officials warn could be a genocide of minority groups by the ISIS fighters.
    August 19, 2014 - In a video posted on YouTube, U.S. journalist James Foley, missing in Syria since 2012, is decapitated by ISIS militants. The militants then threaten the life of another captured U.S. journalist, believed to be Steven Sotloff.
    September 2, 2014 - ISIS releases a video showing the beheading of U.S. journalist Steven Sotloff. Sotloff's apparent executioner speaks in what sounds like the same British accent as the man who purportedly killed Foley. He's dressed identically in both videos, head to toe in black, with a face mask and combat boots. He appears to be of similar build and height. He waves a knife in his left hand, as did the militant in the video of Foley's death.
    September 11, 2014 - The CIA announces that the number of people fighting for ISIS may be more than three times the previous estimates. Analysts and U.S. officials initially estimated there were as many as 10,000 fighters, but now ISIS can "muster between 20,000 and 31,500 fighters across Iraq and Syria," a CIA spokesman tells CNN.
    September 13, 2014 - ISIS militants post video on a website associated with the group, showing the apparent execution of British aid worker David Haines. This makes him the third Western captive to be killed by the Islamist extremist group in recent weeks. ISIS directs a statement at British Prime Minister David Cameron, threatening more destruction if Britian continues its "evil alliance with America." At the end of the video, the executioner threatens the life of Alan Henning, another British citizen held captive. The executioner appears to be the same one who killed both Steven Sotloff and James Foley.
    September 23, 2014 - The United States carries out airstrikes against ISIS. The bombing is focused on the ISIS stronghold of Raqqa, a city in northern Syria.

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    I am libertarian, and typically don't support any military action, and I did not support the Iraq or Afghanistan actions. I do support trying to kill every member of ISIS that is possible.
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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    I am a Democrat and I oppose actions taken. Going after terrorists will prove to be an endless war.


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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    I am a liberal and I believe everyone within ISIS's official territory should be massacred (I'm also 1 in a million on that matter).
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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I am libertarian, and typically don't support any military action, and I did not support the Iraq or Afghanistan actions. I do support trying to kill every member of ISIS that is possible.
    I didn't know if I should give you a "Like" or a "?"

    Weren't you one of the 99% who was looking for pay back after 9-11-01 ?

    Weren't you glued to CNN for weeks and asking when is Bush and the military going to do something ?

    Bin Laden was in Afghanistan on 9-11-01.

    This morning (Fri. Pacific time) around 7:30 A.M. I was going through my files and came across something that was released eight years ago, How Osama bin Laden was able to escape from Bora Bora in Afghanistan. It wasn't President Bush's fault but the National Security Act of 1947 that gave civilians to much control over the military.

    I thought about starting a thread on the DP Military Forum.

    Having U.S. military special operations forces running the game made it worse. Special Ops are not grunts, they are no more than commandos. They don't know how to do it.

    That any Vietnam War Army or Marine grunt with more than a few months "in-country" knows how to conduct a sweep, you have to have a blocking force. There was no blocking force because civilians over ruled the regular infantry that weren't used. (And they were available.)

    The Taliban after getting their butts whooped bloody red and after licking their wounds in Pakistan for years came back to Afghanistan when they saw that the war in Iraq had been politicized in America. Lessons learned by all of America's enemies from the Vietnam War.

    A couple weeks ago Mil. Times conducted a unscientific poll of our military. 70% don't want to put American boots on the ground to destroy ISIS/ISIL with the current CNC (Obama) in command.

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    While I despise ISIS and everything they stand for, it is clear that the 'war on terror' will never be won by soldiers. It has to be won through the education and empowerment of the prosecuted in the affected countries. If we can expedite that process by bombing the hell out of strategic ISIS locations then great, but while it may be viscerally satisfying to send over a bunch of men and watch them dominate ISIS on the battlefield, boots on the ground are fruitless in the long run.
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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    I am Independent and have no idea what the hell to believe since the war on terror has been such a monumental success so far and Assad is now apparently a worthy ally and miraculously no longer a murderous dictator. Throwing endless money, bombs, and soldiers at a network of ideologically driven young men with little to lose appears to be a winning long term strategy.

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I didn't know if I should give you a "Like" or a "?"

    Weren't you one of the 99% who was looking for pay back after 9-11-01 ?

    Weren't you glued to CNN for weeks and asking when is Bush and the military going to do something ?

    Bin Laden was in Afghanistan on 9-11-01.

    This morning (Fri. Pacific time) around 7:30 A.M. I was going through my files and came across something that was released eight years ago, How Osama bin Laden was able to escape from Bora Bora in Afghanistan. It wasn't President Bush's fault but the National Security Act of 1947 that gave civilians to much control over the military.

    I thought about starting a thread on the DP Military Forum.

    Having U.S. military special operations forces running the game made it worse. Special Ops are not grunts, they are no more than commandos. They don't know how to do it.

    That any Vietnam War Army or Marine grunt with more than a few months "in-country" knows how to conduct a sweep, you have to have a blocking force. There was no blocking force because civilians over ruled the regular infantry that weren't used. (And they were available.)

    The Taliban after getting their butts whooped bloody red and after licking their wounds in Pakistan for years came back to Afghanistan when they saw that the war in Iraq had been politicized in America. Lessons learned by all of America's enemies from the Vietnam War.

    A couple weeks ago Mil. Times conducted a unscientific poll of our military. 70% don't want to put American boots on the ground to destroy ISIS/ISIL with the current CNC (Obama) in command.
    I liked Bush. I dont like Obama. This isn't political for me. ISIS is different from what we have been dealing with, from what I can tell, and they are bringing it much closer to home.
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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I liked Bush. I dont like Obama. This isn't political for me. ISIS is different from what we have been dealing with, from what I can tell, and they are bringing it much closer to home.
    Cutting off heads in Afghanistan is closer to home than 9-11? I think you have been duped by Obama's game to justify his military intervention by saying these guys are worse than Alquiada.

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I liked Bush. I dont like Obama. This isn't political for me. ISIS is different from what we have been dealing with, from what I can tell, and they are bringing it much closer to home.
    Al Qaeda brought it far closer to home on 9/11 and after all the blood and treasure, they live, and along with their various offshoots and affiliates are menacing far more territory then they ever were prior to A-Stan and Iraq.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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