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  • I am a REPUBLICAN and I FAVOR the actions taken AND support grounded troops

    2 8.00%
  • I am a DEMOCRAT and I FAVOR the actions taken AND support grounded troops

    1 4.00%
  • I am INDEPENDENT and I FAVOR the actions taken AND support grounded troops

    5 20.00%
  • I am a REPUBLICAN and I FAVOR the actions taken BUT do not support grounded troops

    1 4.00%
  • I am a DEMOCRAT and I FAVOR the actions taken BUT do not support grounded troops

    2 8.00%
  • I am INDEPENDENT and I FAVOR the actions taken BUT do not support grounded troops

    4 16.00%
  • I am a REPUBLICAN and I OPPOSE the actions taken

    1 4.00%
  • I am a DEMOCRAT and I OPPOSE the actions taken

    3 12.00%
  • I am INDEPENDENT and I OPPOSE the actions taken

    6 24.00%
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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Al Qaeda brought it far closer to home on 9/11 and after all the blood and treasure, they live, and along with their various offshoots and affiliates are menacing far more territory then they ever were prior to A-Stan and Iraq.
    YOu guys apparently aren't understanding what I'm saying. They are bringing their cultural saveragery to western democracies, and they have Western accents. This is a different type of terrorism from what we've seen before. These people are more than ideological. They are bloodthirsty.
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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    YOu guys apparently aren't understanding what I'm saying. They are bringing their cultural saveragery to western democracies, and they have Western accents. This is a different type of terrorism from what we've seen before. These people are more than ideological. They are bloodthirsty.
    But the old type of terrorist was pretty savage, ideological and bloodthirsty and brought it home to the US on 9/11. They resided in Afghanistan and going in there to get them is exactly the type of war the US should be involved in.

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    YOu guys apparently aren't understanding what I'm saying. They are bringing their cultural saveragery to western democracies, and they have Western accents. This is a different type of terrorism from what we've seen before. These people are more than ideological. They are bloodthirsty.
    Fair enough I suppose.
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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    I am not going to answer your poll and I think all it does is politicize and divide rather then actually allow for a meaningfull exchange of ideas between people on how to deal with ISIS. However, to answer your question I am against how we are handling it. Airstrikes alone won't do anything. At most, they will only slow progress. At millions of dollars each, we simply cant afford enough bombs and missiles to be effective in eliminating ISIS. The only way we will defeat ISIS, is by sending in massive amounts of ground troops. Or, there would have to be a concerted effort by someone else, and they would need to send in a massive amount of ground troops. Otherwise, ISIS will only grow stronger and gain more influence.
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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by TSAE View Post
    Hi, I am doing an assignment for my sociology class, and I would like to hear from the League community about what they think about what's been going on in the Middle East currently
    . So my question is,

    1. Do you Favor or Oppose the military action the United States is taking in Iraq and Syria against Islamic Militants commonly known as ISIS?

    Also,
    2. Would you Favor or Oppose the United States sending ground troops to Iraq and Syria in order to assist groups in those countries that are fighting the Islamic Militants commonly known as ISIS?

    Also, state if you are a Republican, Democrat, or Independent.

    If you are unfamiliar with the current issue (which in these forums, I'd hope it's unlikely), here are some fast facts you can catch up with on CNN
    ISIS Fast Facts - CNN.com


    I don't see any reason why those of us who use this forum should help you do your schoolwork.

    You'll learn a lot more if you knuckle down and do it yourself.

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    This morning (Fri. Pacific time) around 7:30 A.M. I was going through my files and came across something that was released eight years ago, How Osama bin Laden was able to escape from Bora Bora in Afghanistan. It wasn't President Bush's fault but the National Security Act of 1947 that gave civilians to much control over the military.
    Actually that was Secretary Rumsfelds' fault.

    I thought about starting a thread on the DP Military Forum.

    Having U.S. military special operations forces running the game made it worse. Special Ops are not grunts, they are no more than commandos. They don't know how to do it.
    What do you mean by "running the game"? Because if you mean "Direct Action" or "Foreign Internal Defense", those are part of their Core Activities. No one does it better.

    That any Vietnam War Army or Marine grunt with more than a few months "in-country" knows how to conduct a sweep, you have to have a blocking force. There was no blocking force because civilians over ruled the regular infantry that weren't used. (And they were available.)
    If civilians such as SECDEF overruled military members such as the SOCOM CG, what makes you think that they wouldn't have overruled a Battalion or Regimental CO?

    The Taliban after getting their butts whooped bloody red and after licking their wounds in Pakistan for years came back to Afghanistan when they saw that the war in Iraq had been politicized in America. Lessons learned by all of America's enemies from the Vietnam War.

    A couple weeks ago Mil. Times conducted a unscientific poll of our military. 70% don't want to put American boots on the ground to destroy ISIS/ISIL with the current CNC (Obama) in command.
    I think deploying regular echelons might prove problematic - but we would do much better if we put SOF on the ground to do things like work with the Peshmerga and perform a JTAC function.

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I am not going to answer your poll and I think all it does is politicize and divide rather then actually allow for a meaningfull exchange of ideas between people on how to deal with ISIS.
    Translation: Liberal, against.
    Last edited by cpwill; 10-04-14 at 11:47 AM.

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Al Qaeda brought it far closer to home on 9/11 and after all the blood and treasure, they live, and along with their various offshoots and affiliates are menacing far more territory then they ever were prior to A-Stan and Iraq.
    Yeah.... it's almost as if electing a President dedicated to the notion that US intervention in the world waas the problem, and that the situation would benefit if we pulled back was a bad thing....

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Translation: Liberal, against.
    Ha... you politically brainwashed people make me chuckle. All of you! Who are all lined up in and told by your political leaders what to think and who to identify yourself as. And of course, try to put other people in political boxes as well in order to make any real discussion on the issue, impossible. Its nonsensical drivel like this that divides this nation, raises an uneducated populace because you don't have to think for yourself. Here is your label.... This is what we believe, and this is our church, no need to think! We have the answers for you! If your with us, we will show you who to hate... I am so sick of politics! Current day politics mirrors religion in the sense that people follow it and stick to their label just as many religious people do. As a result, many cant see past the trees and think for themselves.

    Anyway, you are completely incorrect. I agree with military intervention in the Middle East. But its intervention very few if any Americans would ever support. 500-750K troops, with more on standby. A war of overwhelming and decisive force to rid the ME of its extremists and free its populace so that society there could reach its full potential. Potential which has been stifled by thousands of years of religious oppression. Not many people know, or really care, but at one point the middle east was a leader in just about every scientific category. It was only after religious extremists took over and called math the work of the devil that progress stopped. The entire planet would greatly benefit from the freedom of minds in the ME.
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    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: Do you FAVOR or OPPOSE the actions taken in ISIS by the US?

    Can somebody explain to me if what we have been trying for the last 13 years has not worked and has potentially made things worse, why we are continuing to try it? Is that not the very definition of insanity?

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