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Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

US Conservative said:
:doh :lamo
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You must live in the Mojave Desert, I spent 35 years in Newberry Springs

for some reason I seem to be getting the wrong quote. this was supposed to be for UNREPRESENTED
 
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Unrepresented said:
You have been in the black as a "producer" for what, a couple years at most? You spent the first couple decades heavily in the red. Why do you feel you're entitled to skip out on paying it forward to the next generation?
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Ive never been a taker, Ive always paid my taxes, put myself through Paramedic and PA school, have never been on welfare, unemployment, or entitlements, and Ive always contributed to charity, either through money or my medical skills-both here and in Mexico.

What I dont believe in-is the unearned virtue of advocating forcibly taking from some to give to others for votes. In fact I loath it, and thats what the left has done to this state. Many have already left because of this, the sea change is hard to fight.

Maybe I will move to the Nevada side of Tahoe so I can flash my guns and cash at the subjects that live on this side.
 
doniston said:
You must live in the Mojave Desert, I spent 35 years in Newberry Springs

for some reason I seem to be getting the wrong quote. this was supposed to be for UNREPRESENTED
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I dont live in the Mojave. I live in the mediterranean climate (coastal sage scrub) that is much of southern ca within 50 miles of the beach.
 
I could live without the entire deep south. Get rid of 'em all in a block.
 
doniston said:
You must live in the Mojave Desert, I spent 35 years in Newberry Springs

for some reason I seem to be getting the wrong quote. this was supposed to be for UNREPRESENTED
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I'm native to Northern California, but have spent my adult life so far in San Diego.

Apart from swapping "forest" for "desert" my statement would've been true for Northern California too.
US Conservative said:
Ive never been a taker, Ive always paid my taxes, put myself through Paramedic and PA school, have never been on welfare, unemployment, or entitlements, and Ive always contributed to charity, either through money or my medical skills-both here and in Mexico.
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So, I'm fairly certain you were not employed for all of your life. Most people don't start joining the workforce until at least high school, and even then, their low paying jobs don't offset the costs of educating them, let alone the many other services governments provide.
US Conservative said:
What I dont believe in-is the unearned virtue of advocating forcibly taking from some to give to others for votes. In fact I loath it, and thats what the left has done to this state. Many have already left because of this, the sea change is hard to fight.
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People have left everywhere, and gone to everywhere. Free migration between states is part of the reason that they're united. What's your point?

Here's California's population. It doesn't look like we're rats fleeing a sinking ship. Clearly some people must like what's here for it to be continued growth...

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US Conservative said:
Maybe I will move to the Nevada side of Tahoe so I can flash my guns and cash at the subjects that live on this side.
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It's nice up there, but doesn't offer too much metropolitan lifestyle options. I'm sure you'll love being able to brag about having Harry Reid as your senator, however.:D
 
I would prefer to keep all of our states, but these are my top picks for who would leave:

California; the tectonic plates are taking too long to break it off physically, so we might as well do it politically.

Hawaii; immediately after exiling them, I would invade and turn the entire island chain into a single massive military base/macadamia nut plantation for the purposes of launching a massive (and proactive)assault on North Korea and artificially lowering the price of my favorite kind of cookie.

Georgia; but only if we get to keep all the military bases and personnel stationed here. That way, when America eventually collapses under the weight of its own central government, we can invade neighboring states in order to launch a massive terraforming project that would leave even more room for the massive macadamia nut plantations that have haunted my dreams for as long as I can remember. God I love macadamia nuts.

South Dakota; we then place an embargo on them, which will only be lifted if they agree to return to the union as an add-on to North Dakota, which will from then on be known simply as Dakota.

North Dakota; but only if they didn't want to be combined with South Dakota.

Virginia; similar to my plans for South Dakota, as it will be embargoed until it agrees to join with West Virginia into the singule state of East Virginia. By the way, I want Arizona's name to be changed to East Virginia. All states between the two will be unified into a single state of Central Virginia.

New Jersey; I doubt this requires much explanation.

New York; it will be turned into a giant monument to the lives lost when a rogue madman named Jesse Booth got his hands on crystal meth and the nuclear launch codes. At the same time as each other, this time.

...By the way, all of these will be part of my domestic policy, and eventually my foreign policy, when I run for President in 2034. Don't vote for me, for the love of all that is sacred - it simply isn't worth it, even if you do think it'd be a funny use for your vote, like voting for Vermin Supreme! Who definitely isn't me in disguise.
 
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US Conservative said:
So DO tell what Im getting for this, besides a bunch of entitled uneducated liberals who can't even return change at the store.
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How do you know the political affiliation of your cashiers? You must have much deeper interactions with them than I ever do.

Either that, or you're just taking the negative and assuming they must be liberals, because there are no stupid conservatives. :lamo
 
brothern said:
Mississippi.

California makes up like 15% of our GDP. Silicon Valley and Hollywood are both huge in terms of resource creation and influence.
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That's OK...China makes up the other 85%.
 
Unrepresented said:
I'm native to Northern California, but have spent my adult life so far in San Diego.

Apart from swapping "forest" for "desert" my statement would've been true for Northern California too.

So, I'm fairly certain you were not employed for all of your life. Most people don't start joining the workforce until at least high school, and even then, their low paying jobs don't offset the costs of educating them, let alone the many other services governments provide.

People have left everywhere, and gone to everywhere. Free migration between states is part of the reason that they're united. What's your point?

Here's California's population. It doesn't look like we're rats fleeing a sinking ship. Clearly some people must like what's here for it to be continued growth...

CaliforniaPopulation1900-2010-PPIC.png


It's nice up there, but doesn't offer too much metropolitan lifestyle options. I'm sure you'll love being able to brag about having Harry Reid as your senator, however.:D
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You mistake the influx of illegals and welfare seekers with the efflux of the tax base. I never argued absolute numbers have dropped (though they have, recently, iirc).
 
rocket88 said:
How do you know the political affiliation of your cashiers? You must have much deeper interactions with them than I ever do.

Either that, or you're just taking the negative and assuming they must be liberals, because there are no stupid conservatives. :lamo
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They were also educated by liberals, but since you mention it the young AND poor, (both more likely in the service sector) they are also more likely to vote democrat.
 
US Conservative said:
I do, but lets not pretend for a second that matters to you.

Heres where you dismiss the data out of hand, while providing nothing to counter it, Kobie. Its easier that way, isnt it?
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Congratulations, you actually supported an argument. First time for everything.

Of course, it generally stands to reason that people who need assistance won't vote for the people who demonize them as shiftless layabouts, but hey, whatever.
 
Kobie said:
Congratulations, you actually supported an argument. First time for everything.

Of course, it generally stands to reason that people who need assistance won't vote for the people who demonize them as shiftless layabouts, but hey, whatever.
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Its more likely that they wont bite the hand that feeds them. So welfare recipients and politicians team up in a scam of the American tax payer.

And another thing-I always have data to back up my assertions. I could rub your nose in the facts but they would not matter. I approach these problems rationally, attempting to look at the data and extract insight. Others appeal to emotion and hiss and spit. Guess who those people are.
 
US Conservative said:
Its more likely that they wont bite the hand that feeds them. So welfare recipients and politicians team up in a scam of the American tax payer.

And another thing-I always have data to back up my assertions. I could rub your nose in the facts but they would not matter. I approach these problems rationally, attempting to look at the data and extract insight. Others appeal to emotion and hiss and spit. Guess who those people are.
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Uh huh. :roll:
 
US Conservative said:
I'd read the thread before commenting. It adds context.
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My point being that the numbers of people on one form of government assistance or another has been growing steadily since government assistance was created, those numbers don't recede during GOP administrations to advance during democratic administrations. Due to rhetoric, it appears that it's the democrats more interested in such policies and the LI voters vote according to that.
 
Montecresto said:
My point being that the numbers of people on one form of government assistance or another has been growing steadily since government assistance was created, those numbers don't recede during GOP administrations to advance during democratic administrations. Due to rhetoric, it appears that it's the democrats more interested in such policies and the LI voters vote according to that.
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And if you'd read you see I never made that argument. I said that the majority of people on entitlements vote for the democrat party. Its a vote machine-other peoples money for votes.
 
US Conservative said:
And if you'd read you see I never made that argument. I said that the majority of people on entitlements vote for the democrat party. Its a vote machine-other peoples money for votes.
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Which I addressed in the post you quoted.
 
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