Page 6 of 26 FirstFirst ... 4567816 ... LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 251

Thread: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

  1. #51
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,095

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    <snip>

    Please hurry this up, I look forward to sun tanning in San Diego without having to have crossed a border.
    Stop.

  2. #52
    Educator
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Last Seen
    12-03-17 @ 02:19 AM
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    848

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Revolutions need money to get off the ground.

    If you had enough money to support another revolution, would you really spend it for that purpose? Or would you spend it on your own personal "freedom?"
    To be sure, the cause of liberty is long-since lost... trying to speak reason to the machine and the citizens that support it would be akin to a German citizen circa 1936 telling everyone to leave that Jewish family alone - the people have checked out and given themselves over to groupthink.

    As for what you are using as an example - our Founding Fathers did just that. Most of them were very wealthy, and put their wealth, honor, and lives on the line for principle. They could just as easily said, "... I'm rich, can live a life of ease - screw the little guy", but they didn't do that... they risked it all. And to be sure some of them lost all their wealth, some of them lost their lives, but they did not lose their honor.

    Americans are so weak-kneed and lacking in education, perspective, and honor today that there is no hope that liberty will be seen again in our lifetime. Hopefully some future generation of Americans can rise up and restore freedom, but I know I won't be alive to see it.

  3. #53
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    To be sure, the cause of liberty is long-since lost... trying to speak reason to the machine and the citizens that support it would be akin to a German citizen circa 1936 telling everyone to leave that Jewish family alone - the people have checked out and given themselves over to groupthink.

    As for what you are using as an example - our Founding Fathers did just that. Most of them were very wealthy, and put their wealth, honor, and lives on the line for principle. They could just as easily said, "... I'm rich, can live a life of ease - screw the little guy", but they didn't do that... they risked it all. And to be sure some of them lost all their wealth, some of them lost their lives, but they did not lose their honor.

    Americans are so weak-kneed and lacking in education, perspective, and honor today that there is no hope that liberty will be seen again in our lifetime. Hopefully some future generation of Americans can rise up and restore freedom, but I know I won't be alive to see it.
    If the vast majority of the population wanted liberty I could see myself supporting a revolution, but at this point in time they very much want the opposite. It just seems like every generation wants to control their fellow americans more and desire nothing more than to get more and more from government. I don't see the end of that trend any time soon.

  4. #54
    A sinister place...
    OrphanSlug's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Atlanta
    Last Seen
    08-08-17 @ 02:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    10,860

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    A country not committed to the freedom of all men is trash. Those not committed to the cause of freedom are enemies and should be seen as such.
    And what about these states being listed are operating against "freedom?"

  5. #55
    Undisclosed
    Unrepresented's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    San Diego
    Last Seen
    06-12-16 @ 09:05 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,230

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    To be sure, the cause of liberty is long-since lost... trying to speak reason to the machine and the citizens that support it would be akin to a German citizen circa 1936 telling everyone to leave that Jewish family alone - the people have checked out and given themselves over to groupthink.

    As for what you are using as an example - our Founding Fathers did just that. Most of them were very wealthy, and put their wealth, honor, and lives on the line for principle. They could just as easily said, "... I'm rich, can live a life of ease - screw the little guy", but they didn't do that... they risked it all. And to be sure some of them lost all their wealth, some of them lost their lives, but they did not lose their honor.

    Americans are so weak-kneed and lacking in education, perspective, and honor today that there is no hope that liberty will be seen again in our lifetime. Hopefully some future generation of Americans can rise up and restore freedom, but I know I won't be alive to see it.
    I don't get to use the term "Jeremiad" too often, so your posts are refreshing in that they present such rich opportunities.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

  6. #56
    Why so un**great?
    DifferentDrummr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Facepalm Beach
    Last Seen
    06-04-17 @ 04:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    5,818
    Blog Entries
    3

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    To be sure, the cause of liberty is long-since lost... trying to speak reason to the machine and the citizens that support it would be akin to a German citizen circa 1936 telling everyone to leave that Jewish family alone - the people have checked out and given themselves over to groupthink.

    As for what you are using as an example - our Founding Fathers did just that. Most of them were very wealthy, and put their wealth, honor, and lives on the line for principle. They could just as easily said, "... I'm rich, can live a life of ease - screw the little guy", but they didn't do that... they risked it all. And to be sure some of them lost all their wealth, some of them lost their lives, but they did not lose their honor.

    Americans are so weak-kneed and lacking in education, perspective, and honor today that there is no hope that liberty will be seen again in our lifetime. Hopefully some future generation of Americans can rise up and restore freedom, but I know I won't be alive to see it.
    I'll take that as an "I'll spend the money on myself instead of on a revolution."
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

  7. #57
    Sage

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Texas, Vegas, Colombia
    Last Seen
    11-28-16 @ 06:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    20,295

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    California.... both the state and the country would be better off if they separated and we simply engaged in amiable trade with them

  8. #58
    Sage
    Unitedwestand13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Sunnyvale California
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:30 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    14,934

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    California.... both the state and the country would be better off if they separated and we simply engaged in amiable trade with them
    as an american citizen that was born and raised in the state of california, i find the thought of the state separating from the united states unthinkable
    "If you can't stand the way this place is, Take yourself to higher places!"
    Break, By Three days grace

    Hilliary Clinton/Tim Kaine 2016

  9. #59
    Sage

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Texas, Vegas, Colombia
    Last Seen
    11-28-16 @ 06:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    20,295

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Sounds like a great idea in a time of national debt to kick out would would then become the tenth largest economy in the world....
    massive federal govt contracts would dry up ( California leads the nation is massive aerospace contracts)... they would drop on the list further than the #10 spot.

  10. #60
    Mixed Government advocate
    Master PO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    93,000,000 miles from Earth where its very Hot
    Last Seen
    11-30-17 @ 01:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    31,331

    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Just wanted to point out something interesting in this chart

    16 of the 20 states that depend on the government the most are RED states


    well if you would like to, we could let the blue states keep more of their money, but take away much of their represention in the house.

    something i have stated many times, CA has 53 people in the house, while the state of WY only has 1, mississippi 4, alabama 7 while CA pays more they have the advantage of numbers in government.

Page 6 of 26 FirstFirst ... 4567816 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •