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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    LOL !!

    Love the one dimensional graph minus ANY context to back up its claims.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!

    Love the one dimensional graph minus ANY context to back up its claims.
    I thought it was self explanatory, but I'll be more thorough this time.

    You're claiming that:
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I'm not naive enough to think that tax increases equate to income equality let alone a improved economy or even increase revenues.

    I'm much too pragmatic to think that targeting wealth creation is a good idea.
    So, I posted a chart showing that a change in tax rate didn't significantly help or hinder the GDP, historically.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    If we compare that chart to other charts of economic trends we should be familiar with, like income equality:





    We can see a correlation between the decreased marginal tax rates and the middle class percentage of overall wealth.

    Here's a graph showing the relationship between revenues and tax rates:



    Tax rate increases correlate to increase in revenue, while tax cuts do the opposite.

    As to "improved economy" are we looking just at GDP or are we looking at what the median income is experiencing? The economy doesn't improve for me if the 1% get richer at my expense. Should their isolated and robust gains be considered an "improved economy" or should that be measured by how the rest of the country is doing?

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I thought it was self explanatory, but I'll be more thorough this time.

    You're claiming that:


    So, I posted a chart showing that a change in tax rate didn't significantly help or hinder the GDP, historically.



    If we compare that chart to other charts of economic trends we should be familiar with, like income equality:





    We can see a correlation between the decreased marginal tax rates and the middle class percentage of overall wealth.

    Here's a graph showing the relationship between revenues and tax rates:



    Tax rate increases correlate to increase in revenue, while tax cuts do the opposite.

    As to "improved economy" are we looking just at GDP or are we looking at what the median income is experiencing? The economy doesn't improve for me if the 1% get richer at my expense. Should their isolated and robust gains be considered an "improved economy" or should that be measured by how the rest of the country is doing?


    You just posted different charts that all make the SAME general and arbitrary connection.


    Lol....

    How about applying these left wing narratives practically.

    Hmmm...how can we do this..

    Oh !! I know. Let's compare States with varying levels of local and State tax burdens.

    Lets do the Highest tax burden and lowest tax burden States

    California and Texas.
    Last edited by Fenton; 10-08-14 at 05:56 PM.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    I say we put a fence around Georgia and make a zoo for liberals.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You just posted different charts that all make the SAME general and arbitrary connection.


    Lol....

    How about applying these left wing narratives practically.

    Hmmm...how can we do this..

    Oh !! I know. Let's compare States with varying levels of local and State tax burdens.

    Lets do the Highest tax burden and lowest tax burden States

    California and Texas.
    Let's just cut to the chase and determine how quality of life is between the two.

    Here's how the two rank in obesity:



    Here's accidental death:



    Here's gender pay rate equality:



    Here's how long your dog is expected to live:



    Here's how likely your teenage daughter will get knocked up:


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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    As everyone can see by the color coded map and the graph I've attached, progressives are clearly beating conservatives by a very wide margin.

    Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union-graph2-jpgFox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union-graph1-jpg

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    I see from this thread that many more conservatives want to exile the non-their-side types than liberals. But liberals are the "authoritarians."

    I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Whenever I see someone mention household income (invariably a liberal) I have to lolz because I know they are either ignorant or badly trying to misrepresent the truth.

    The number of people per household has dropped over the last several decades-there are less people in each house. PER CAPITA is the real measure, and thats steadily rose.



    Im going to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume that you are just ignorant.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I see from this thread that many more conservatives want to exile the non-their-side types than liberals. But liberals are the "authoritarians."

    I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
    Conservatives want to take care of themselves and their families, not you and yours, Kobie. Whats hard to understand?

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As everyone can see by the color coded map and the graph I've attached, progressives are clearly beating conservatives by a very wide margin.

    Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union-graph2-jpgFox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union-graph1-jpg
    I like how neither are labeled. Well done.

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