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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Not true actually... the people were herded like cattle.

    Stock market collapse (a deliberate event); ensuing depression (also deliberate); make the people suffer, then offer them salvation. It's not that complicated, and it is straight out of Alinski/Gramsci 101, before Gramsci ever wrote his Prison Notebooks.

    Since democracy is the most effective way to destroy a solidly founded republic like America, the people were then slowly indoctrinated into accepting and believing in democracy - something that is completely antithetical to liberty, yet they think it is synonymous with liberty - now how can that be?? Of course that can only happen by way of indoctrination.

    "The people" did not make an informed choice - b/c no rational, informed person would choose to live in a democracy if they truly understood history and governmental systems.
    no rational person likes being called sheep.

    every republic is strengthened by having a Tiberius Grachus willing to represent the people.

    and this is who i am referring to.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and neither is the seventeenth ammendment
    true as well.....

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i refuse to surrender my ability to decide who goes to washington as the states senator and leave the electoral fate of the country in the hands of state legislators who do not represent me.
    the senate is not supposed to represent you, they are mean to represent the states, the house represents the people, not the senate.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the senatedoes not supposed to represent you, they are mean to represent the states, the house represents the people, not the senate.
    where would the states be without the people?
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    then the key to maintaining a democracy is education.

    or is that a privilege as well.
    they key is to get rid of demcracy as a FORM..AND ......FORM of government.

    and return to a republican form, with an ELEMENT of democracy in it representing the people

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    where would the states be without the people?
    the purpose of the senate in the hands of the states, is to place a check on federal power.

    with the states no longer having a voice in the senate, this has allowed the federal government to usurp powers of the states, because the states cannot stop that power crab...because they cannot block legislation which does it.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the senate is not supposed to represent you, they are mean to represent the states, the house represents the people, not the senate.
    And there's a huge difference between representing one's home state and representing one's political party.
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    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    And there's a huge difference between representing one's home state and representing one's political party.

    corruption is going to exist, it is not going away, it will always be with us, however since i must have corruption as part of the political process, i want it closer to the people.

    government which is closer to the people is easier to control by the people, and easier to correct problems when things go wrong.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And more people on welfare and food stamps then the rest of the states combined.
    NP pulling lies out of his ass again......too funny.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ever heard of sillicon valley?
    Yes I have but it's not with in the city or county limits of San Francisco.

    Silicon Valley is more associated with San Jose because it's just north of San Jose.

    The Silicon Valley is not considered to be part of the "Gay Bay."

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