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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    well, i was referring to the 77 native groups who are opposing the name
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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    However, the NCAI decisions are dictated by votes from every tribe so...
    Close. The NCAI's decisions are dictated by the votes of those individuals representatives of the various tribes (which by their own count is roughly 1/3rd of all government recognized tribes) that make up the the NCAI.

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    There you have it. The FCC is considering banning the word 'Redskins' from the broadcast mediums it regulates.

    What say you?
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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    No matter which side you are on in this matter, this is funny. This guy is hilarious... Here is an e-mail sent to Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune after an article he published concerning a name change for the Washington Redskins. I have no idea who the author is, it ended up in my mail box.

    Dear Mr. Page...

    I always love your articles and I generally agree with them. I would suggest, as in an email I received, they change the name to the "Foreskins" to better represent their community, paying tribute to the dick heads in Congress.

    I agree with our Native American population. I am highly insulted by the racially charged name of the Washington Redskins. One might argue that to name a professional football team after Native Americans would exalt them as fine warriors, but nay, nay. We must be careful not to offend, and in the spirit of political correctness and courtesy, we must move forward.

    Let's ditch the Kansas City Chiefs, the Atlanta Braves and the Cleveland Indians. If your shorts are in a wad because of the reference the name Redskins makes to skin color, then we need to get rid of the Cleveland Browns.

    The Carolina Panthers obviously were named to keep the memory of militant Blacks from the 60's alive. Gone. It's offensive to us white folk.

    The New York Yankees offend the Southern population. Do you see a team named for the Confederacy? No! There is no room for any reference to that tragic war that cost this country so many young men's lives.

    I am also offended by the blatant references to the Catholic religion among our sports team names. Totally inappropriate to have the New Orleans Saints, the Los Angeles Angels or the San Diego Padres.

    Then there are the team names that glorify criminals who raped and pillaged. We are talking about the horrible Oakland Raiders, the Minnesota Vikings, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Pittsburgh Pirates!

    Now, let us address those teams that clearly send the wrong message to our children. The San Diego Chargers promote irresponsible fighting or even spending habits. Wrong message to our children.

    The New York Giants and the San Francisco Giants promote obesity, a growing childhood epidemic. Wrong message to our children.

    The Cincinnati Reds promote downers/barbiturates. Wrong message to our children.

    The Milwaukee Brewers. Well that goes without saying. Wrong message to our children.

    So, there you go. We need to support any legislation that comes out to rectify this travesty, because the government will likely become involved with this issue, as they should. Just the kind of thing the do-nothing Congress loves.

    As a diehard Oregon State fan, my wife and I, with all of this in mind, suggest it might also make some sense to change the name of the Oregon State women's athletic teams to something other than "the Beavers."
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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Close. The NCAI's decisions are dictated by the votes of those individuals representatives of the various tribes (which by their own count is roughly 1/3rd of all government recognized tribes) that make up the the NCAI.
    Sort of like our legislature then, but who do you think elects those representatives?

    I don't know why the other 2/3, if this is correct, aren't part of the NCAI, but surely many of those tribes also oppose the nfl team's name and logo, if they're aware of it.

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    No matter which side you are on in this matter, this is funny. This guy is hilarious... Here is an e-mail sent to Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune after an article he published concerning a name change for the Washington Redskins. I have no idea who the author is, it ended up in my mail box.

    Dear Mr. Page...

    I always love your articles and I generally agree with them. I would suggest, as in an email I received, they change the name to the "Foreskins" to better represent their community, paying tribute to the dick heads in Congress.

    I agree with our Native American population. I am highly insulted by the racially charged name of the Washington Redskins. One might argue that to name a professional football team after Native Americans would exalt them as fine warriors, but nay, nay. We must be careful not to offend, and in the spirit of political correctness and courtesy, we must move forward.

    Let's ditch the Kansas City Chiefs, the Atlanta Braves and the Cleveland Indians. If your shorts are in a wad because of the reference the name Redskins makes to skin color, then we need to get rid of the Cleveland Browns.

    The Carolina Panthers obviously were named to keep the memory of militant Blacks from the 60's alive. Gone. It's offensive to us white folk.

    The New York Yankees offend the Southern population. Do you see a team named for the Confederacy? No! There is no room for any reference to that tragic war that cost this country so many young men's lives.

    I am also offended by the blatant references to the Catholic religion among our sports team names. Totally inappropriate to have the New Orleans Saints, the Los Angeles Angels or the San Diego Padres.

    Then there are the team names that glorify criminals who raped and pillaged. We are talking about the horrible Oakland Raiders, the Minnesota Vikings, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Pittsburgh Pirates!

    Now, let us address those teams that clearly send the wrong message to our children. The San Diego Chargers promote irresponsible fighting or even spending habits. Wrong message to our children.

    The New York Giants and the San Francisco Giants promote obesity, a growing childhood epidemic. Wrong message to our children.

    The Cincinnati Reds promote downers/barbiturates. Wrong message to our children.

    The Milwaukee Brewers. Well that goes without saying. Wrong message to our children.

    So, there you go. We need to support any legislation that comes out to rectify this travesty, because the government will likely become involved with this issue, as they should. Just the kind of thing the do-nothing Congress loves.

    As a diehard Oregon State fan, my wife and I, with all of this in mind, suggest it might also make some sense to change the name of the Oregon State women's athletic teams to something other than "the Beavers."
    Pretty pitiful attempt at satire. Yankees - wrong, there is the "ole miss rebels." Exalting the natives? Then do it like the "florida state seminoles," with a native riding a horse with a flaming spear he throws into the field prior to kickoff. They also have the support of the Seminole tribe. The "cleveland indians" is indeed racist, when you just look at the damn logo for 2 seconds.

    None of the other collectives that are supposedly glorified or offended by various team names has ever come close to enduring the oppression that natives in this country have. This pedantic whining veiled as mockery falls on deaf ears

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    What say you?
    I say the team should give the FCC a big middle finger and keep the name. And then we can all laugh at the verbal gymnastics the football commentators will have to go through to avoid saying the name of the team.
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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Sort of like our legislature then, but who do you think elects those representatives?
    I believe typically either the tribe does or the tribal leadership does.

    But yes, like our legislature. Which is why it's reasonable to point out the NCAI condemns the name but it's unwise to suggest that it actually offends [X] amount of native americans who are part of the NCAI.

    Just as it'd be ridiculous to suggest that a resolution passed by Congress is literally representative of the thoughts of 100% of all the people they represent, so too is it ridiculous to suggest that the NCAII's stance is literally what 100% of the native americans under its banner believe.

    Additionally, I find a noted irony in those who use the NCAI's stance as a significant facet of their foundational argument for saying the name is offensive but who don't also vocalize displeasure and anger for things like the Chiefs or Braves as the NCAII has taken an official stance that the use of "derogatory" native american icongraphy and themes in sports franchises in general is an offensive thing. And for them, a "derogatory" reference is pretty much where it's not referencing a specific native american nation with that tribes permission (for example the Seminoles)

    I don't know why the other 2/3, if this is correct, aren't part of the NCAI
    A multitude of reasons. One of the biggest is that to my understand it's hardly an actual full on governing body like you'd think of as a "congress" but is closer to an advocacy group ala the NAACP or GLAAD. Naturally, some simply don't want to be part of such groups.

    Another thing is that despite how many outside of Native American culture view them, many Native Americans don't necessarily view themselves as this conglomorate group. They're Cherokee, or Navajo, or Blackfoot, or Patawomeck. They're independent peoples who may be far more interested in governing themselves or standing on their own identity then necessarily joining into a homogenous group.

    As to other tribles coming out against the name that are not part of the NCAI? I'm sure there are some. But I know that the vast majority of the individual tribes that I've seen listed over the years that have came out against the name are tribes that you'll find on the NCAI's membership rolls. Most publications will rarely actually TELL you this though, instead choosing to double dip on references to make it seem larger than it is.

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    They need to get a life
    If there was an NFL team called the South Carolina Niggers, would you say the same about people wanting it to change?
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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If there was an NFL team called the South Carolina Niggers, would you say the same about people wanting it to change?
    Apples and Oranges. There are Native American high schools that use the team name redskins as their team name.How many majority black high schools would be ok with niggers as their team name?

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