View Poll Results: Should the FCC ban usage of the word 'Redskins' in broadcasts?

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Thread: FCC + 'Redskins'

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Maybe the 40 year gap between when the movie came out might hurt your case.
    Not really, not when I prove that all the Italian gangster movies since that were born of that hurtful film came out furthered that horrible image.

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Not if they're using public airwaves. We provide them with a public spectrum, they agree to adhere to public standards.
    The FCC may bar material whose content is offensive, though both Scalia and Ginsberg think the decision that allows the FCC that power should be overturned. \

    In any case while it may bar offensive content it cannot bar offensive viewpoints even when the content is similarly offensive. Viewpoints represent ideas and are protected by the first amendment.

    "Redskins" is offensive not because the word itself is offensive - like one of the seven dirty words - but because it represents a (potentially) racist viewpoint. As such it is protected speech.

    Further the FCC itself has published rulings where they state they will not censor racist material.
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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    If they have nothing better to do than this then they can shutter this commission.

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    When can we expect the FCC to ban the word "Oklahoma" from all broadcasts?

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    There you have it. The FCC is considering banning the word 'Redskins' from the broadcast mediums it regulates.

    What say you?
    I hadn't thought about this before. I have no problem with it. I'm interest to know how Dan Snyder feels about this because I doubt he saw this coming. It's an interesting way for people who have a problem with the team name to get it changed.

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The FCC may bar material whose content is offensive, though both Scalia and Ginsberg think the decision that allows the FCC that power should be overturned. \

    In any case while it may bar offensive content it cannot bar offensive viewpoints even when the content is similarly offensive. Viewpoints represent ideas and are protected by the first amendment.

    "Redskins" is offensive not because the word itself is offensive - like one of the seven dirty words - but because it represents a (potentially) racist viewpoint. As such it is protected speech.

    Further the FCC itself has published rulings where they state they will not censor racist material.
    Racist material and racist words are different things. Stopping a viewpoint and stopping an ethnic slur over public airwaves aren't the same.
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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    I'm sure they go through with this petition (they won't) they'll follow suit with other slurs like Yankee and Canuck (note, they won't).

    There's also a question of the difference between it's use as a PROPER noun (as in Washington Redskins) and as opposed to it as a simple noun (as in "In the early days of the country native americans were called names such as indian or redskin). There's significant disagreement on whether or not the team name "Redskins" is an "offensive" term with sizable evidence on both sides of the issue. It is absolutely ridiculous on the part of the government if it comes out and declares it as such for broadcasting purposes at this point in time. I'm not one to typically pull the "political correct" card, but to do so at a time when overwhelmingly there is evidence that a majority of people, and to a lesser degree of evidence a majority of those it supposedly slurs, do NOT find it offensive would be nothing but a move in the name of political correctness.

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Racist material and racist words are different things. Stopping a viewpoint and stopping an ethnic slur over public airwaves aren't the same.
    Racist words are racist because they represent the attitude of the speaker. The N word is not considered racist when spoken by a rapper but it is when spoken by a white person. It represents a point of view. That makes it protected speech to me.
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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Not if they're using public airwaves. We provide them with a public spectrum, they agree to adhere to public standards.
    How does that make sense? If the first amendment applies to public schools why wouldn't it apply to public airwaves?

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    Re: FCC + 'Redskins'

    The USA in modern times has not imposed censorship for anything but descriptions or depictions of sexual conduct or excretory functions. I do not support that censorship, and I can not support expanding to broader censorship. I doubt that courts will allow such an expansion. I support changing the Red Skin's name, but it is not something that government should impose. Criticism and boycotts will prevail eventually.

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