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    Do firearms empower people?

    Exercising one's rights. A means to prevent tyranny. Self defense. The means to hunt.


    Do firearms empower people? Note that this is not pertaining specifically to the US or the 2nd amendment, but rather a general question.







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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Guns don't empower people, people empower people.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Guns empower people to do what they want, be that good things or bad things, so long as the gun is present at the time they want to do the particular act. Whether more help or harm comes as a result of this is an entirely different question.

    The rhetoric about 'preventing tyranny' is largely empty though, IMO.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by recalcitrant View Post
    Guns don't empower people, people empower people.
    In the last century over 100 million died due to marxism. Except for those that rebelled, they were unarmed.

    There was a difference there. Is that difference empowering or not?

    Who's empowered in this photo, and how do you think that happened?
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    The rhetoric about 'preventing tyranny' is largely empty though, IMO.
    Says the Brit to the American.

    Whats all this about then?


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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    Guns empower people to do what they want, be that good things or bad things, so long as the gun is present at the time they want to do the particular act. Whether more help or harm comes as a result of this is an entirely different question.

    The rhetoric about 'preventing tyranny' is largely empty though, IMO.
    Really? The colonies became the USA largely because of the empowerment of arms.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Really? The colonies became the USA largely because of the empowerment of arms.
    As I mentioned above, guns empower people to do whatever they want. That both applies to fighting back against tyranny, and being a tyrant in the first place. I can't name any tyrants who were unarmed.

    We would also have to get into an argument about what constitutes 'tyranny'. Not sure the US government is any more or less tyrannical than the UK...
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Guns inflict pain, the ability to inflict pain is power. I've been reading 1984 again:

    He paused, and for a moment assumed again his air of a schoolmaster questioning a promising pupil: ‘How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?’

    Winston thought. ‘By making him suffer,’ he said.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Guns are tools. Do tools empower people?
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    This exchange comes from one of my favorite movies:
    Simon: I've gotta ask you for a favor. Let me go my way here. This truck's my responsibility, and now that the car's hooked up to it, it's my responsibility too.

    Rocstar: Do you think I'm stupid? Just answer that question first.

    Simon: Look, I don't know nothing about you; you don't know nothing about me. I don't know if you're stupid, or some kind of genius. All I know is that I need to get out of here, and you got the gun. So I'm asking you, for the second time, let me go my way here.

    Rocstar: I'm gonna grant you that favor, and I'm gonna expect you to remember it if we ever meet again. But tell me this, are you asking me as a sign of respect, or are you asking because I've got the gun?

    Simon: Man, the world ain't supposed to work like this. I mean, maybe you don't know that yet. I'm supposed to be able to do my job without having to ask you if I can. That dude is supposed to be able to wait with his car without you ripping him off. Everything is supposed to be different than it is.

    Rocstar: So what's your answer?

    Simon: You ain't got the gun, we ain't having this conversation.

    Rocstar: That's what I thought: no gun, no respect. That's why I always got the gun.
    Yeah, I think a lot of people feel that way. I think a lot of people would react completely differently if they didn't have a gun. I'm not pigeon-holing all gun owners like this, but I think that, for some people, owning a gun gives them this feeling that they can do anything, and can get away with anything.
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