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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Your issue is with authoritarian leaders, not marxism. Still waiting for you to back up your 100 million claim.
    saying marxism isn't responsible for the millions upon millions killed by marxist dictators like Pol Pot and Mao or Stalin is like claiming that the Roman Catholic Church was not responsible for the counter-reformation and the Spanish Inquisition because "real Christians" wouldn't burn people alive or break them on racks to get them to confess sins.



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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    saying marxism isn't responsible for the millions upon millions killed by marxist dictators like Pol Pot and Mao or Stalin is like claiming that the Roman Catholic Church was not responsible for the counter-reformation and the Spanish Inquisition because "real Christians" wouldn't burn people alive or break them on racks to get them to confess sins.
    Please tell me the methodology used to establish 100 million people.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Please tell me the methodology used to establish 100 million people.
    are you denying that marxist leaders have slain millions and millions and many others died from starvation or symptoms of a failed government?



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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    As mentioned in the very post you quoted, one person's definition of 'tyranny' differs from another. Thank you for making my point.
    Tyranny - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    Full Definition of TYRANNY

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    : oppressive power <every form of tyranny over the mind of man Thomas Jefferson>; especially : oppressive power exerted by government <the tyranny of a police state>

    2 a : a government in which absolute power is vested in a single ruler; especially : one characteristic of an ancient Greek city-state
    & b : the office, authority, and administration of a tyrant

    3 : a rigorous condition imposed by some outside agency or force <living under the tyranny of the clock Dixon Wecter>

    4 : an oppressive, harsh, or unjust act : a tyrannical act <workers who had suffered tyrannies>


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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    are you denying that marxist leaders have slain millions and millions and many others died from starvation or symptoms of a failed government?
    Economic ideologies don't kill people, genocidal dictators do. People weren't dying of redistribution of wealth they were dying because of dictators.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Economic ideologies don't kill people, genocidal dictators do. People weren't dying of redistribution of wealth they were dying because of dictators.
    communism requires force to be implemented. its a poisonous ideology that should be eradicated from the face of this earth



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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    communism requires force to be implemented. its a poisonous ideology that should be eradicated from the face of this earth
    Every system of government requires force to be implemented, maintained, and adjusted. What's your point?
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Every system of government requires force to be implemented, maintained, and adjusted. What's your point?
    our form of government hasn't killed near as many people



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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    our form of government hasn't killed near as many people
    Actual communism has killed very few people. Dictatorship MASQUERADING as communism has killed more than just about any form of government.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Actual communism has killed very few people. Dictatorship MASQUERADING as communism has killed more than just about any form of government.
    many communist defenders always claim that Stalin, Mao etc were not real communists. but it seems every time a "communist" leader springs up, so do lots of graves. WE have to hold the philosophy responsible for how it is applied. as I noted. The Spanish Inquisition had no real relationship with true Christianity but I hold the Papacy responsible for the horrors of that institution



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