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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    I think that carrying guns all the time may make the option of using it more probable. Perhaps this is the reason why so many people die from guns in USA.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I think that carrying guns all the time may make the option of using it more probable. Perhaps this is the reason why so many people die from guns in USA.

    Most of the people who die "from guns" in the US do so because they have committed suicide.

    Excluding cops or citizens killing perps in justified shoots, most other "gun deaths" in the US are thug-on-thug, and who really cares if a drug dealer shoots another drug dealer, as long as he doesn't miss.


    Accidents are statistically rare. Law-abiding CCW types shooting someone in a fit of anger are rare, despite the media hyping those rare incidents.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    How does creating a "rebuttal" about something entirely different from what I've actually been saying count as "owning" me?
    It was pertinent to the topic. Sorry that things like firearms and freedom bother you.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It was pertinent to the topic.
    No, it wasn't. It was a strawman.

    Sorry that things like firearms and freedom bother you.
    As is that. An exceptionally stupid strawman at that, as I support the second amendment.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Idiocy is a problem, and strawmen are often indicative of idiocy.
    Yes, they are. Especially against inanimate objects. To them emotion rules, and logic drools. Welcome to earth.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Mostly they just make cowardly people less afraid(but only slightly, they still live in fear), and people with small penises feel less inadequate.
    Would it be "cowardly" for a 90 pound female to brandish/use a firearm to try defending her life against a 250 pound assailant? Were she not armed, would it be an act of "cowardice" for an armed, 120 pound, 'inadequate' male to come to her aid?
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    How much power a person has should be based on how much power their guns have.

    Power factors of basic rounds:

    .308 or 7.62X52 rifle is 420 per round

    .45 ACP pistol is about 93 per round

    .22 long rifle is about 4 per round

    So a person with a .308 battle rifle with 20 rounds would be empowered at a factor of 8,400.

    And a person with an 8 round .45 Colt Gov Model would be at 744

    And a person with a 25 round .22 rifle would only be at 100.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    This exchange comes from one of my favorite movies:


    Yeah, I think a lot of people feel that way. I think a lot of people would react completely differently if they didn't have a gun. I'm not pigeon-holing all gun owners like this, but I think that, for some people, owning a gun gives them this feeling that they can do anything, and can get away with anything.
    Yeah, like guys who suffer from Small Man Syndrome or were born into wealth. As you said though, it does not reflect all gun owners. And you're right, I would, and have, act differently depending on whether I was armed or not. That's just common sense. Like, say you're in a situation that if you had a gun you'd feel better about your chances of survival, wouldn't you like to feel confidence in that kind of situation or be crushed by the realization of, "Hey, I'm going to die." Having friends that can ran faster than your opposition is always a good thing to have in this Machiavellian world.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    How much power a person has should be based on how much power their guns have.

    Power factors of basic rounds:

    .308 or 7.62X52 rifle is 420 per round

    .45 ACP pistol is about 93 per round

    .22 long rifle is about 4 per round

    So a person with a .308 battle rifle with 20 rounds would be empowered at a factor of 8,400.

    And a person with an 8 round .45 Colt Gov Model would be at 744

    And a person with a 25 round .22 rifle would only be at 100.
    No, not really. The size of the bullet doesn't really matter if it hits the person in the right spot. A .22 will kill a man just as dead as a 7.62 or an HE round from a M198 howitzer.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    No, not really. The size of the bullet doesn't really matter if it hits the person in the right spot. A .22 will kill a man just as dead as a 7.62 or an HE round from a M198 howitzer.
    Thats a bit of an oversimplification. Yes, hitting vital tissue is what determines lethality, but the more vital tissue hit with the greatest capacity to expend that energy in vital tissue-the greaters the lethality.

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