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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly
    Yeah, I think a lot of people feel that way. I think a lot of people would react completely differently if they didn't have a gun. I'm not pigeon-holing all gun owners like this, but I think that, for some people, owning a gun gives them this feeling that they can do anything, and can get away with anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by LagerHead View Post
    The word in bold is the key one here. You think that it gives us that feeling. And you're 100% wrong. In fact, when I carry, I am much more reserved than when I don't because of the simple fact that if I was to get in some stupid, heated argument over nothing and the other person happened to notice that I was carrying, they might feel like reporting me for brandishing, a charge that is difficult to defend. No thanks. I'll just steer clear of them instead. (Not that I tend to get in stupid arguments with strangers either way, but you get the point.)
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Guns don't empower people, they do provide the illusion of empowerment for some people, though.

    Look at this thread, for example. We have some people who truly believe that owning a gun would prevent them from being the victim of "tyranny" as though the playing field is akin to that which existed in 1776.

    Newsflash, it's not. The founding fathers owning guns didn't win the revolutionary war, the fact that the British didn't really think it was worth the effort of sending enough troops and weapons across the ocean to stomp our faces into the ground is what won the war. It wasn't cost effective to win the war and the supply lines were pretty much unsustainable for the meager benefits it would have provided. Many Brits knew their "English brethren in the colonies" would still look to England as a patriarch of sorts. They were still going to want their tea. Not enough reward to warrant the costs of Iron fisted cotnrol.

    Nowadays, ships don't use sails and the tyrants would be on their own home court. These days, you aren't going to overthrow a tyrannical government as a ragtag group of spunky rebels with guns. You would be crushed like the Brits would have crushed us in the 1770's had they actually felt it economically expedient to do so.
    I'd say Washington's spy ring had more to do with winning the war than insufficient British troops. The British military probably sent over what their strategists thought was necessary.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Mostly they just make cowardly people less afraid(but only slightly, they still live in fear), and people with small penises feel less inadequate.
    Wow... that sounds pretty mean. And sounds like a very provocative made up stereotype by you...

    So I assume you are not a coward, and that is why you do not own a gun? You are not afraid of anything... or rather, you think there will never be anything you would be afraid of because something or someone else will always keep you protected? You have faith in your protection, and that makes you brave.
    It's good to have faith in the good hearts of the people around you.
    But I think this is a thought process of someone who has been severely sheltered most of their life and has never experienced the true reality and cruelty of the world.

    I do not own a gun... because I can't afford one xD. I do not consider myself cowardly, nor do I have a small penis lol.
    There is a difference between the brave and the stupid... the brave are scared, but choose to push on anyway. The stupid are not.

    I'll throw out a Lion King quote for fun...that I think is relevant
    Mufasa: Simba, I'm very disappointed in you.
    Young Simba: I know.
    Mufasa: You could have been killed! You deliberately disobeyed me! And what's worse, you put Nala in danger!
    Young Simba: I was just trying to be brave like you.
    Mufasa: Simba, I'm only brave when I have to be. Being brave doesn't mean you go looking for trouble.
    Young Simba: But you're not scared of anything.
    Mufasa: I was today.
    Young Simba: You were?
    Mufasa: Yes. I thought I might lose you.
    Young Simba: Whoah. I guess even kings get scared, huh?
    Mufasa: Mmm-hmm.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It's a good thing, meant to be funny-it means you are dead on.
    Thanx for not blowin it USCon_

    So I guess I'm still officially, madly in like with you!

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    But the kid kinda looks familiar?!
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Irrelevant and yes, along with with a thousand years of legal precedent.
    Its a poor excuse for a constitution and part of the reason for the rapid decline of English/British culture. The UK is a shell of its former self, not just as a kingdom, but also as a people.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Thanx for not blowin it USCon_

    So I guess I'm still officially, madly in like with you!

    I knew you wouldn't let me down_

    Nope; it musta been pre-me_

    But the kid kinda looks familiar?!
    You must be too young, Im guessing you are in your early to mid 20's. The glasses still work.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Wow... that sounds pretty mean. And sounds like a very provocative made up stereotype by you...

    So I assume you are not a coward, and that is why you do not own a gun? You are not afraid of anything... or rather, you think there will never be anything you would be afraid of because something or someone else will always keep you protected? You have faith in your protection, and that makes you brave.
    It's good to have faith in the good hearts of the people around you.
    But I think this is a thought process of someone who has been severely sheltered most of their life and has never experienced the true reality and cruelty of the world.

    I do not own a gun... because I can't afford one xD. I do not consider myself cowardly, nor do I have a small penis lol.
    There is a difference between the brave and the stupid... the brave are scared, but choose to push on anyway. The stupid are not.

    I'll throw out a Lion King quote for fun...that I think is relevant
    Mufasa: Simba, I'm very disappointed in you.
    Young Simba: I know.
    Mufasa: You could have been killed! You deliberately disobeyed me! And what's worse, you put Nala in danger!
    Young Simba: I was just trying to be brave like you.
    Mufasa: Simba, I'm only brave when I have to be. Being brave doesn't mean you go looking for trouble.
    Young Simba: But you're not scared of anything.
    Mufasa: I was today.
    Young Simba: You were?
    Mufasa: Yes. I thought I might lose you.
    Young Simba: Whoah. I guess even kings get scared, huh?
    Mufasa: Mmm-hmm.


    Thank you. Possessing weapons in a world where there are armed thugs is merely prudent and rational... no fear or egotism need be involved at all.


    The bottom line is, if someone with a weapon is trying to abuse you, your odds of successfully resisting are far greater if you are armed than if not. End of story.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You can't be sufficiently armed to resist a tyrannical government in this country because our government, should it ever decide to become tyrannical, is always going to be armed significantly better than the resistance.

    Only a true civil war, where the government splits fairly evenly and both sides take along the weaponry the government possesses, would allow a chance for victory from the "resistance" side.

    In that case, it wouldn't be resistance to tyranny, because the side that is considered tyrannical would not have enough authority (due to the split) in order to actually be tyrannical. It would only become a tyrannical government if it actually wins the civil war.

    But if the government made the shift to tyranny without splitting up, any armed resistance by the people would be futile due to the disproportion of armament.
    Yes because throughout the history of this globe, the power with superior numbers and firepower have always been the one that won haven't they? And there's never been any examples of a smaller forces challenging a larger one, let alone succeeding. Seriously, have you ever taken a single history class?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'd say Washington's spy ring had more to do with winning the war than insufficient British troops. The British military probably sent over what their strategists thought was necessary.
    Keep in mind that once France entered the conflict, the war went from a small regional conflict into a global conflict. France's military hit at British assets from North America, Africa, the Indies, and even at home. Even if they wanted to send more troops, the fact of the matter is that they couldn't afford too.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    I'll say this, Police would certainly think a little more about busting into someone's house if they know they have a gun. And thanks to the ruling in Texas, if I cop breaks into the wrong home without announcing themselves, the homeowner has every right to shoot them. I'm sure they'll be careful to make sure their hitting the right home from now on...

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'll say this, Police would certainly think a little more about busting into someone's house if they know they have a gun. And thanks to the ruling in Texas, if I cop breaks into the wrong home without announcing themselves, the homeowner has every right to shoot them. I'm sure they'll be careful to make sure their hitting the right home from now on...
    As they should be and generally are.

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