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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Per the bolded, this should be interesting to you.

    65% See Gun Rights As Protection Against Tyranny

    65% See Gun Rights As Protection Against Tyranny - Rasmussen Reports™
    Not too particularly interesting. They are free to believe that and in the beginning it was true. Not so much any more. Perhaps collectively. Firearms do not really equal the ability to project power at least in a meaningful way that would deter a government. To deter the government you have to be able to hurt them enough that they must closely measure and weigh the benefit vs the cost of engagement.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Not too particularly interesting. They are free to believe that and in the beginning it was true. Not so much any more. Perhaps collectively. Firearms do not really equal the ability to project power at least in a meaningful way that would deter a government. To deter the government you have to be able to hurt them enough that they must closely measure and weigh the benefit vs the cost of engagement.
    The interesting part Pirate is that a significant majority of Americans understand the second amendment to be a citizens defense against governmental tyranny!
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The interesting part Pirate is that a significant majority of Americans understand the second amendment to be a citizens defense against governmental tyranny!
    If you are making a point, do please make it. Otherwise I don't find that sentiment all that interesting especially because past history leads me to believe in all likelihood the citizenry will not in mass pick up arms and defy the government, despite the Bundy incident.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    If you are making a point, do please make it. Otherwise I don't find that sentiment all that interesting especially because past history leads me to believe in all likelihood the citizenry will not in mass pick up arms and defy the government, despite the Bundy incident.
    The point, is clear. According to a Rasmussen Poll, 65% of Americans believe the second amendment is a citizens protection from tyranny. If you don't find that number interesting, fine. But I would have thought it would be far lower then that.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The point, is clear. According to a Rasmussen Poll, 65% of Americans believe the second amendment is a citizens protection from tyranny. If you don't find that number interesting, fine. But I would have thought it would be far lower then that.
    I am sorry but the point was not clear, hence why I asked. Good night.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Obvious answer....

    I will say that much of the time, however, for the enthusiast, the firearm is largely another toy and a hobby. An enjoyable, interesting, and fulfilling hobby, but a hobby nonetheless.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    It was there to ensure a reserve army was available should the tiny standing army be overrun by invaders. In much the way that England earlier had laws requiring weekly archery practise before Church on Sunday.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It was there to ensure a reserve army was available should the tiny standing army be overrun by invaders. In much the way that England earlier had laws requiring weekly archery practise before Church on Sunday.
    I was never a constitutionally protected right in england. Do you even have a constitution.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I was never a constitutionally protected right in england. Do you even have a constitution.
    Irrelevant and yes, along with with a thousand years of legal precedent.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    This exchange comes from one of my favorite movies:


    Yeah, I think a lot of people feel that way. I think a lot of people would react completely differently if they didn't have a gun. I'm not pigeon-holing all gun owners like this, but I think that, for some people, owning a gun gives them this feeling that they can do anything, and can get away with anything.
    The word in bold is the key one here. You think that it gives us that feeling. And you're 100% wrong. In fact, when I carry, I am much more reserved than when I don't because of the simple fact that if I was to get in some stupid, heated argument over nothing and the other person happened to notice that I was carrying, they might feel like reporting me for brandishing, a charge that is difficult to defend. No thanks. I'll just steer clear of them instead. (Not that I tend to get in stupid arguments with strangers either way, but you get the point.)

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