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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative65 View Post
    Why do you think so many in history referred to as tyrants disarmed their people?
    Because the tyrant didn't want them feeling macho?

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Ohhhkay USCon; I'll bite__Who is "Willis" and what was he/she/it talking about?

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That's just it, these groups did not successfully resist tyrannical governments. Saddam was a tyrant, and groups like these couldn't do **** against him. It wasn't until we deposed the tyrant that these groups gained power. Why? Because we do not run the region as a tyrant does.
    Pretty myopic argument. Many of them did not exist under Saddam, and who ever said guns alone are a guarantee of resistance let alone victory?

    Besides, many of this same group are successfully resisting Assad as well as American military forces in Afghanistan, and probably Iraq.

    There are no guarantees in life, despite the lefts wishes. In my view a fighting chance trumps chance.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That's just it, these groups did not successfully resist tyrannical governments. Saddam was a tyrant, and groups like these couldn't do **** against him. It wasn't until we deposed the tyrant that these groups gained power. Why? Because we do not run the region as a tyrant does.

    Let me ask you this. Given a choice, what would you do? Would you choose to arm yourself?

    For me the second amendment isn't about defending against tyranny. Its about the daily visible enforcement of my rights. That is the main reason to carry for me. Self defense, tyranny are distant secondary considerations. For me the gun the knife their display is a political statement, which says **** with me at your peril. If I am armed or not it matters not to me, because wherever I go, I AM THE weapon everything and everybody in my environment are simply tools for me to manipulate for my and families defense as necessary. I don't need a gun, they are simply a political tool for me as well as a hobby.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Save your appeasement and doom hand wringing for elsewhere. Its not for you to decide whats acceptable.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Pretty myopic argument. Many of them did not exist under Saddam...
    Because he was a tyrant.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Let me ask you this. Given a choice, what would you do? Would you choose to arm yourself?
    In what scenario? If it is resisting a tyrannical regime, I'm going to find more effective strategy for resistance than simply getting a gun. I may arm myself in the process, but it's not my primary concern.

    For me the second amendment isn't about defending against tyranny.
    We're in agreement about that.

    Its about the daily visible enforcement of my rights. That is the main reason to carry for me. Self defense, tyranny are distant secondary considerations. For me the gun the knife their display is a political statement, which says **** with me at your peril. If I am armed or not it matters not to me, because wherever I go, I AM THE weapon everything and everybody in my environment are simply tools for me to manipulate for my and families defense as necessary. I don't need a gun, they are simply a political tool for me as well as a hobby.
    So you agree that guns only provide the illusion of empowerment. True empowerment only comes from one's choice to not relinquish their own power. The only authority others have over us is the authority which we choose to grant them.

    I support the 2nd amendment. But doing so does not mean I have to hold self-delusional beliefs about how owning a gun = empowerment. If I require a gun to feel empowered, I cannot really be empowered because I'm trying to find power from outside of myself.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Let me ask you this. Given a choice, what would you do? Would you choose to arm yourself?

    For me the second amendment isn't about defending against tyranny. Its about the daily visible enforcement of my rights. That is the main reason to carry for me. Self defense, tyranny are distant secondary considerations. For me the gun the knife their display is a political statement, which says **** with me at your peril. If I am armed or not it matters not to me, because wherever I go, I AM THE weapon everything and everybody in my environment are simply tools for me to manipulate for my and families defense as necessary. I don't need a gun, they are simply a political tool for me as well as a hobby.

    I am water, I flow, I crash, I erode, I corrode, I break, I evaporate, I transform, I am everywhere, I am nowhere, I am water.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Pretty myopic argument. ... and who ever said guns alone are a guarantee of resistance let alone victory? ...
    So guns don't empower much?
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    So guns don't empower much?
    I believe they do, but thats not the same as a guarantee, is it?

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