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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm really not faulting them for anything, but simply stating some of the background and history of the ideology. What I will say on the matter is in reality they gave up on their past goals and created new goals that only move wealth around a bit and accomplish nothing.
    I thought it killed 100 million people? Now it's being argued that it accomplishes nothing. How can it be accused of doing so much yet apparently does so little?
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I thought it killed 100 million people? Now it's being argued that it accomplishes nothing. How can it be accused of doing so much yet apparently does so little?
    I was not talking of communism nor did I say communism was responsible for killing millions of people.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I was not talking of communism nor did I say communism was responsible for killing millions of people.
    That makes you less intellectually offensive than several other "contributors" in this thread.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    No. They give people a false sense of power. You feel stronger, braver, more in control over any given situation when you have a gun in your hand. But sometimes, knowing that cold piece of steel either in your hand or within close proximity gives one the belief that they can do anything even if their actions are reckless.

    No, guns don't empower you. They just give you the impression that you hold all the power and can control the situation better than the next guy. Now granted, in a shootout or faced with the possibility of needing a weapon to defend myself I want that gun by my side. Absolutely! But the gun doesn't empower you. Your mind does that.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    No. They give people a false sense of power. You feel stronger, braver, more in control over any given situation when you have a gun in your hand. But sometimes, knowing that cold piece of steel either in your hand or within close proximity gives one the belief that they can do anything even if their actions are reckless.

    No, guns don't empower you. They just give you the impression that you hold all the power and can control the situation better than the next guy. Now granted, in a shootout or faced with the possibility of needing a weapon to defend myself I want that gun by my side. Absolutely! But the gun doesn't empower you. Your mind does that.

    "Stupid is as stupid does!"
    Have you informed history, the military, and law enforcement about your stunning insight?

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Have you informed history, the military, and law enforcement about your stunning insight?
    There's a difference between "personal empowerment" as your OP poll eludes to and a strong local or nation defense. The question wasn't about the use of weaponry. The question centered around personal protection.

    To empower someone means to enable or permit a certain act or sense of authority. Therefore, if you're suggesting that "he who has a gun holds the power" then what you're really advocating is tyranny. I will never submit to anyone's authority at the barrel of a gun. I may live to fight another day, but I will never submit.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The question centered around personal protection.
    I wrote the op and no it did not. And then I kindly provided a definition of the term "empower".

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    No. They give people a false sense of power. You feel stronger, braver, more in control over any given situation when you have a gun in your hand. But sometimes, knowing that cold piece of steel either in your hand or within close proximity gives one the belief that they can do anything even if their actions are reckless.

    No, guns don't empower you. They just give you the impression that you hold all the power and can control the situation better than the next guy. Now granted, in a shootout or faced with the possibility of needing a weapon to defend myself I want that gun by my side. Absolutely! But the gun doesn't empower you. Your mind does that.

    "Stupid is as stupid does!"
    Sorry; I don't agree. A gun in my hand is a great equalizer. I know what I have felt, and that was that I had the power to protect myself and stop someone bad from hurting me. Because of the pellets, you know, rather than because of my mind.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I wrote the op and no it did not. And then I kindly provided a definition of the term "empower".
    Anyone who holds a weapon over another who is defenseless holds the power. That much is clear. But that doesn't mean that the person without a weapon is powerless. It just means you have the upper hand until you no longer have it. Such clearly was the case of the German soldier who apparently believe he had the upper hand on the peasant until he didn't and the gun was turned on him.

    I that sense, yes, clearly the man holding the gun is in control. But I don't see that as empowerment. I see that as control. Two separate things.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Anyone who holds a weapon over another who is defenseless holds the power. That much is clear. But that doesn't mean that the person without a weapon is powerless. It just means you have the upper hand until you no longer have it. Such clearly was the case of the German soldier who apparently believe he had the upper hand on the peasant until he didn't and the gun was turned on him.

    I that sense, yes, clearly the man holding the gun is in control. But I don't see that as empowerment. I see that as control. Two separate things.
    All of this boils down to you being unclear on the definition of empowerment.

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