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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Mostly they just make cowardly people less afraid(but only slightly, they still live in fear), and people with small penises feel less inadequate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    In the last century over 100 million died due to marxism. Except for those that rebelled, they were unarmed.

    There was a difference there. Is that difference empowering or not?

    Who's empowered in this photo, and how do you think that happened?
    So except for the ones that where armed, they where unarmed. Brilliant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Who's empowered in this photo, and how do you think that happened?
    I stand by the joke I made.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So except for the ones that where armed, they where unarmed. Brilliant!
    So the ones who weren't armed died. Those that were had a fighting chance. Is this a difficult concept for you?
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    As I mentioned above, guns empower people to do whatever they want. That both applies to fighting back against tyranny, and being a tyrant in the first place. I can't name any tyrants who were unarmed.

    We would also have to get into an argument about what constitutes 'tyranny'. Not sure the US government is any more or less tyrannical than the UK...
    The US government will not arrest me just for being armed but "unlicensed".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The US government will not arrest me just for being armed but "unlicensed".
    As mentioned in the very post you quoted, one person's definition of 'tyranny' differs from another. Thank you for making my point.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Guns don't empower people, they do provide the illusion of empowerment for some people, though.

    Look at this thread, for example. We have some people who truly believe that owning a gun would prevent them from being the victim of "tyranny" as though the playing field is akin to that which existed in 1776.

    Newsflash, it's not. The founding fathers owning guns didn't win the revolutionary war, the fact that the British didn't really think it was worth the effort of sending enough troops and weapons across the ocean to stomp our faces into the ground is what won the war. It wasn't cost effective to win the war and the supply lines were pretty much unsustainable for the meager benefits it would have provided. Many Brits knew their "English brethren in the colonies" would still look to England as a patriarch of sorts. They were still going to want their tea. Not enough reward to warrant the costs of Iron fisted cotnrol.

    Nowadays, ships don't use sails and the tyrants would be on their own home court. These days, you aren't going to overthrow a tyrannical government as a ragtag group of spunky rebels with guns. You would be crushed like the Brits would have crushed us in the 1770's had they actually felt it economically expedient to do so.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Guns don't empower people, they do provide the illusion of empowerment for some people, though.

    Look at this thread, for example. We have some people who truly believe that owning a gun would prevent them from being the victim of "tyranny" as though the playing field is akin to that which existed in 1776.

    Newsflash, it's not. The founding fathers owning guns didn't win the revolutionary war, the fact that the British didn't really think it was worth the effort of sending enough troops and weapons across the ocean to stomp our faces into the ground is what won the war. It wasn't cost effective to win the war and the supply lines were pretty much unsustainable for the meager benefits it would have provided. Many Brits knew their "English brethren in the colonies" would still look to England as a patriarch of sorts. They were still going to want their tea. Not enough reward to warrant the costs of Iron fisted cotnrol.

    Nowadays, ships don't use sails and the tyrants would be on their own home court. These days, you aren't going to overthrow a tyrannical government as a ragtag group of spunky rebels with guns. You would be crushed like the Brits would have crushed us in the 1770's had they actually felt it economically expedient to do so.
    Newsflash, guns aren't a guarantee that there wont be tyranny (clearly). They are a means to resist it. I own a car with an alarm, I dont think that means it can't be stolen.

    Hopefully you understand that concept.

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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    They are a means to resist it.
    No, not really. They are a means to give one's self the illusion of the ability to resist it. Small, sharp rocks provide the same ability to actually resist it.
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    Re: Do firearms empower people?

    To give an example, the whole Bundy ranch thing. If we actually had a tyrannical government, all of the people involved in the "resistance" would have been smoking husks at the bottom of a crater.

    We don't actually have a tyrannical government, though, so they were able to give the illusion of resisting a mythical tyranny with their guns.
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