View Poll Results: Who's more at fault?

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    7 16.67%
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    17 40.48%
  • A bit of both.

    7 16.67%
  • Neither.

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Thread: Who's Responsible for ISIS?

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    Re: Who's Responsible for ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Is the rise of ISIS more of Bush's fault for invading Iraq, or more of Obama's for pulling out, then disregarding the countries direction?
    There's a thousand years of hostility among Muslims, the last hundred years of occupation, and most recently an invasion and subsequent withdrawal. There is no easy answer to the question.

    First it needs to be asked whether if keeping US troops in Iraq would have prevented the rise of ISIS as a menace.
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    Re: Who's Responsible for ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Our country never learns from our mistakes and keeps up the same rhetorical nonsense. They were saying on FOX today that Hong Kong protestors should keep it up, till they get democracy. I thought, how stupid can you be to keep giving the same self righteous advice that hasn't worked anywhere in the ME?
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    Re: Who's Responsible for ISIS?

    Neither is at fault. The opposition claims that it is Israel's fault:

    https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...yfp-t-418&fp=1

    Here is a site of ISIS that deals with Israel specifically:

    Institute for Science and International Security › Countries › Israel

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    Re: Who's Responsible for ISIS?

    I think its Muhammad's fault. But you cant excuse those who chose to use his stone age ramblings to justify their murderous acts.

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    Re: Who's Responsible for ISIS?

    The polling in this thread is indicative of the fact that because people only recently heard of the Islamic State (ISIS) that it must only recently have come into existence, and therefore must be Obama's fault. The Islamic State has certainly been a beneficiary of Obama's policies, but they have a much earlier beginning and took advantage of the prior administrations policies in the ME, too.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Who's Responsible for ISIS?

    ISIS is responsible for ISIS... radical Islam is responsible.

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    Re: Who's Responsible for ISIS?

    It is the fault of collective American foreign policy since WW2
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