View Poll Results: Is Political Correctness real?

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  • Yes PC is real and is rampant. People are too sensitive.

    42 68.85%
  • Yes and No - It depends. (Explain in your post)

    11 18.03%
  • No PC is a made up escape goat. It is a catch phrase used to distract from a real issue.

    8 13.11%
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    "Tea bagger" was first coined as a homosexual practice.

    It was "borrowed" as an inside joke to insult and is now used for anyone who disagrees with the Obama administration.

    I, a Canadian Liberal who supports universal health care has been called a teabagger several hundred times. That is why, when those same 'liberal' people also take offense I respond with "**** off, you hypocritical lying misfit, your mother never had any kids she wanted." or something extremely put personally offensive as opposed to the more objectionable insult of, say, a political party and it's leader.
    It was proudly declaimed by tea-bag-wearing teapartiers as their logo until someone pointed out their ignorant error in choosing an ironically repugnant name for themselves. It's nobody's fault but their own that it stuck!
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    And you are doing it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And when someone points out simple facts, like how the prevailing "black culture's" aversion to marriage, fidelity, employment, and legal authority results in the highest poverty, unemployment, unwed single mother, STD, abortion, murder, death, violent crime, and incarceration rates of any demographic group in the entire country?
    I'm not denying that any of this is true. The black community is, indeed broken. But you love to sell only half of it. There is more to the issue than just "Blacks need to get their **** together". It's tad more complicated than that. The issues rampant in impoverished African american communities are few centuries deep and entrenched. You threw a whole lot of issues into one bag and left it at that. I'm sure you have never given any of them real thought or contemplation. You just see it as "intrinsic African Issues".



    Oh, wait. I forgot. No one's allowed to talk about that, because it's racist.

    All we're expected to do is keep our mouths shut, feel guilty about slavery, and endlessly throw money at the issue through ever-expanding entitlement programs that accomplish exactly jack sh*t to address the actual root causes of the problem (while providing Leftists with a fanatical block of dependent low information supporters willing to vote for them come Hell or high-water, of course ).
    I can't speak for everyone. I don't expect that of you or anyone. I expect an honest discussion. One that is not sabotaged by glorified stereotypes.

    You ignored the homosexual one. Though I'm not surprised. That's honest observation of mine about your position on the topic. I do think you are Homophobic if after all the years you have been on this forum discussing that same issue and in face of all the sources I know you have been given to you have not budged an inch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    There's also no requirement to watch a Redskins game. Thankfully...

    But why would you want to offend people? That seems antithetical to the whole idea of Christianity, IIRC.
    Because I enjoy my football games and teams and don't give a rats ass about what you think of it. Call me selfish that way. Besides I like the fact the name pisses people off. It means there are still moppets out there I can manipulate to my very profitable ends because they are to stupid to think for themselves. That and its fun pissing people off.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    I'm black and I don't want to be called a Negro. The word is ugly and has a negative connotation.

    Native Americans are not Indian, they were mistaken for such.
    And I resent it when people call my friends "Indians" when their ancestry here goes back untold generations.

    Nor do I like being called "whitie, white boy, or 'gui lo', Cantonese for "white ghost" the most severe insult in the Chinese culture. But I do not believe I or anyone else has the right to force people how to speak. I would rather know the prick in front of me is a racist so I can forever ignore him
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Are you going to cry?
    Even if i did cry i'm sure you wouldn't care. Bless your cold beating heart.

    Let me be PC for you... there, there I didn't mean to be a big old nasty.
    We'll censor ALL the cartoons that make any *hint* of perceived bias, because children will become racists.
    Nothing was censored. It was a disclaimer. You're upset because they had the audacity to point out racism where it exists. Good for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It was proudly declaimed by tea-bag-wearing teapartiers as their logo until someone pointed out their ignorant error in choosing an ironically repugnant name for themselves. It's nobody's fault but their own that it stuck!
    Tea Party is repugnant?

    I suggest you need to look at some biases here.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Political Correctness is deadly serious.

    Political Correctness is Marxism

    >" Where does all this stuff that you’ve heard about this morning – the victim feminism, the gay rights movement, the invented statistics, the rewritten history, the lies, the demands, all the rest of it – where does it come from? For the first time in our history, Americans have to be fearful of what they say, of what they write, and of what they think. They have to be afraid of using the wrong word, a word denounced as offensive or insensitive, or racist, sexist, or homophobic.

    We have seen other countries, particularly in this century, where this has been the case. And we have always regarded them with a mixture of pity, and to be truthful, some amusement, because it has struck us as so strange that people would allow a situation to develop where they would be afraid of what words they used. But we now have this situation in this country. We have it primarily on college campuses, but it is spreading throughout the whole society. Were does it come from? What is it?

    We call it “Political Correctness.” The name originated as something of a joke, literally in a comic strip, and we tend still to think of it as only half-serious. In fact, it’s deadly serious. It is the great disease of our century, the disease that has left tens of millions of people dead in Europe, in Russia, in China, indeed around the world. It is the disease of ideology. PC is not funny. PC is deadly serious.

    If we look at it analytically, if we look at it historically, we quickly find out exactly what it is. Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not to the 1960s and the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I. If we compare the basic tenets of Political Correctness with classical Marxism the parallels are very obvious...."<

    continue -> The Origins of Political Correctness

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    I'm black and I don't want to be called a Negro. The word is ugly and has a negative connotation.

    Native Americans are not Indian, they were mistaken for such.
    They're Indians if I choose to call them that. And when I lived in Arizona, that was their preferred term. Driving through any Indian reservation, you would see signs for "Indian school," "Indian police," etc., and there is a specialized legal field called "Indian law." I heard more than one of them take offense at being called a "Native American" instead of an Indian. They would also sometimes refer to themselves specifically as "Navajo," "Apache," "Pima," and so on.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Negro.....African American

    Indian....Native American....American Indian
    Well with Indian, there's the question of if you mean from India or not. It's better to be clear.

    But how does it hurt you anyway? Seriously, so what if you have to change the way you talk a little bit? You have no right not to be inconvenienced slightly.


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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    The problem with PC is that it's making the conversation stupid.


    It opens the floodgates to discussions not on fact, not on substance, but on how people said something or how people perceive someone said something.
    -I'm offended

    has become the new doctrine by which all must abide. Now, people who scream "I'm offended" are put on pedestal in the media. "Oh, that person is offended, he must have some important stuff to say and he must be important". This is 100% other than how it should be. Screaming "I'm offended" should just be a stern indicator to the rest of the world that you are incompetent and incapable of handling your emotions and not in full control of yourself. So now you task everyone else to guard themselves as to not offend you because you cannot control yourself. And this is how things are done. I mean, how crazy is this.

    Now I'm not saying never be offended. But don't air the dirty laundry in public like you're some sort of charity case.

    It's also an automatic stop sign on any conversation. The moment you declare that you're offended, the conversation will move from a debate on the issues to a discussion on how what you said offended you. And the person who said that he's offended is on the moral highground.

    So those are some problems with PC. Well, one of them. But gathomas made a few good statements about how when you criticize somethign that can be interpreted as "other" it's because you're some form of closed-mindedness. it could never be because you informed yourself and made a statement that is factually correct but because it's "offensive" therefore it cannot be. Even if its true, it cannot be declared as such because it causes offense. It's stupid.

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