View Poll Results: Is Political Correctness real?

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  • Yes PC is real and is rampant. People are too sensitive.

    42 68.85%
  • Yes and No - It depends. (Explain in your post)

    11 18.03%
  • No PC is a made up escape goat. It is a catch phrase used to distract from a real issue.

    8 13.11%
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes mostly by teachers, although one of mine got in trouble in 6th grade when he was waiting in the guidance office for some papers he was bringing back to his class. It was right before Christmas break, and he said "Merry Christmas" to the secretary when he left, and she called me. I was fuming (at her, NOT my kid).

    I think in my town's case it was implemented by the school board, which is surprising given how non-liberal my town is (we went about 82% for Romney in 2012).

    It annoys me.
    Was it implemented at the board level? If not, I would have sarcastically said something like, "the poor child took pity on those who do not deserve kindness."
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Was it implemented at the board level? If not, I would have sarcastically said something like, "the poor child took pity on those who do not deserve kindness."
    I don't know. I meant to get the full scoop after it happened but I decided to wait until after the new year so I didn't appear so Grinchy over the break. Then I forgot about it. Periodically I think about it and every Christmas season I mean to ask. Some of our friends say our school board is filled with lunatics so it could be. Our superintendent is a flaming jackoff so it may just be his thing.

    I told Mrs. xx to have a Merry Christmas when I hung up with her that day. I'm sure she was pissed at me.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I honestly have a hard time understanding what PC is and what it is not. A lot people who complain about PC tend to be conservative, and I am not sure what they upset about not being able to say. Just don't say anything offensive, sexist, or racist. I don't find it hard.

    I know Palin gets upset about people saying retard, and it's understandable. Other than that, conservatives get upset about "Happy Holidays."

    I am confused if Happy Holidays is PC or if Merry Christmas is PC. I just know conservatives are the sore asses on the issue... lol
    Most of the PC individuals I have come across are liberal, Biblically-challenged, or milquetoast Christians. That's where a lot of PC comes from.

    Have you ever really sat down and studied the Bible in depth?
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Most of the PC individuals I have come across are liberal, Biblically-challenged, or milquetoast Christians. That's where a lot of PC comes from.

    Have you ever really sat down and studied the Bible in depth?
    Is there much in the bible about saying Merry Christmas or political correctness? Or are you just trying to derail this into another Jesus thread like you always do?
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Is there much in the bible about saying Merry Christmas or political correctness? Or are you just trying to derail this into another Jesus thread like you always do?
    Most Christians understand that 'Christmas' is the day that is set aside to honor the birth of Christ, even though he most likely wasn't born on that day. So to diss Christmas is to slight Christians.

    And it's an appropriate post to make, so take your hostility on down the road.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Most Christians understand that 'Christmas' is the day that is set aside to honor the birth of Christ, even though he most likely wasn't born on that day. So to diss Christmas is to slight Christians.

    And it's an appropriate post to make, so take your hostility on down the road.
    Lol, ok, so it's as I thought, the bible has absolutely nothing to do with this topic, you just like making everything about Jesus because you feel lost everywhere else.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Lol, ok, so it's as I thought, the bible has absolutely nothing to do with this topic, you just like making everything about Jesus because you feel lost everywhere else.
    Still waiting for a decent argument from you...
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    With the introduction of social media it has become more and more difficult to escape the "news" no matter what it's covering. As a result discussions of every little thing under the clear blue sky is becoming more and more a common past time, for all ages.

    With that the intrinsic social issues that are rampant throughout societies world wide- women rights, male rights, gay rights, racial rights, etc - get a lot of air time. And as a result there are some who appear to be weary of issues that seem to never go away. So in comes the new or reintroduced "it" phrase. "Political Correctness".

    It appears that now, regardless if the issue has any merit and is in fact morally or ethically insidious , those who are sick of discussing it dismiss it as "political correctness". They insist that the everyone is too "Sensitive" and that "it's not that big of a deal".

    The phrase is so over used and simplified that it is become a tired argumentative fallacy. Instead of engaging and honestly addressing an issue, those who refuse to see for what it is simply cry "PC" and go on their merry ol' way.

    It's rampant on this forum as well. It reeks of false victim hood, where those who belong to a privileged class that often is contributing to the misfortune of another people essentially cry out because they are being stripped of their right to subjugate, harass, alienate, or otherwise mistreat others. It's silly.

    But that's my perspective, what's yours?

    Is PC a real thing? Are people too sensitive? Or is PC a cop out excuse used to sweep pressing issues under the rug?
    It's three things now.
    1. Simply another term for the proper etiquette of the day, no different than in any country or period of history. Richard Pryor in an interview spoke about how back in the comedy nightclub days of the 70's, any comedian who swore was removed from the stage instantly. There's no era in human history when there wasn't that thing you just didn't say. Believing otherwise is no different than believing absolutely in the Norman Rockwell vision of America in the fifties.
    2. An abuse of #1, allowing people to intimidate others from harmless speech at best, or even necessary speech at worst. These instances thoroughly embarrass the rest of us who believe that society should be more pluralistic and tolerant. If there was any story that earned the Picard facepalm jpg the most, it was the one of the vegan who lived in a Muslim community and demanded a sign advertising bacon be taken down. What earned the jpg of both Picard and Riker doing a facepalm was the business complying.
    3. What has absolutely saturated the national dialogue however is this most insidious of use of the PC term, the rallying cry of people who resent social backlashes for their legitimately repugnant behavior. You can't log on to the internet without reading another story about how the PC thought police are shutting some guy down because he said the "n" word fifty times in a row on public television and now his business is being boycotted.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post

    Is PC a real thing? Are people too sensitive? Or is PC a cop out excuse used to sweep pressing issues under the rug?
    Both of these are true. I guess you could say what we traditionally refer to as political correctness started out as good intentions, such as not being racist, sexist, or homophobic, taken to absurd proportions, such as claiming that penmanship is a sexist term, or saying Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays is insulting.

    It's worth noting that political correctness is in no way new: each ideology has its own version of political correctness, and it is very present on the right as well as certain segments of the left. Try mentioning abortion casually to a tea partier and you'll be met with a very emotional response probably containing the words "child murderer" or something like that. Christmas is another good example: the absurd idea that saying Merry Christmas is offensive to atheists somehow spread and was met by a very vocal reaction by conservatives, including the equally absurd claim that saying Happy Holidays is offensive to Christians. So yes, absurd debates like this one are generated out of oversensitivity, but any of the media coverage political correctness receives is too much. It gets way more attention than it deserves (it deserves none from the general public) and many people are going to vote Republican or Democrat in no small part because of PC non-issues. Things like this being manifested into issues that people actually care about is one of the problems with American politics.

    If you want to see a party essentially generated as a result of political correctness, check out Sweden's Feminist Initiative:

    Feminist Initiative (Sweden) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    I don't give a crap about political correctness. I don't think it brings any value to our culture or society.
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