View Poll Results: Is Political Correctness real?

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  • Yes PC is real and is rampant. People are too sensitive.

    42 68.85%
  • Yes and No - It depends. (Explain in your post)

    11 18.03%
  • No PC is a made up escape goat. It is a catch phrase used to distract from a real issue.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Is there a law in the United States preventing people from saying "Merry Christmas?"
    My kids are emphatically not allowed to say it in school.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    My kids are emphatically not allowed to say it in school.
    More idiocy being taught in the schools by idiotic policies from the PC militia.

    How is this NOT suppression of the right to free speech? Suppression by peer pressure, and suppression by the teachers, an authority figure in the schools? All from the liberal / progressive indoctrination we already know is part and parcel of the education system.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    My kids are emphatically not allowed to say it in school.
    Some of the silly examples of PC or religion suppression are from school administrators misinterpretting case law. There is no reason to limit children's speech to prevent use of Merry Christmas is not required by law.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Just by including the term "political" distracts from the real issue.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    More idiocy being taught in the schools by idiotic policies from the PC militia.

    How is this NOT suppression of the right to free speech? Suppression by peer pressure, and suppression by the teachers, an authority figure in the schools? All from the liberal / progressive indoctrination we already know is part and parcel of the education system.
    Personally, I think many folks are so indoctrinated into PC that they no longer recognize when their civil liberties are being violated.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    My kids are emphatically not allowed to say it in school.
    What do you mean by "not allowed?"
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    With the introduction of social media it has become more and more difficult to escape the "news" no matter what it's covering. As a result discussions of every little thing under the clear blue sky is becoming more and more a common past time, for all ages.

    With that the intrinsic social issues that are rampant throughout societies world wide- women rights, male rights, gay rights, racial rights, etc - get a lot of air time. And as a result there are some who appear to be weary of issues that seem to never go away. So in comes the new or reintroduced "it" phrase. "Political Correctness".

    It appears that now, regardless if the issue has any merit and is in fact morally or ethically insidious , those who are sick of discussing it dismiss it as "political correctness". They insist that the everyone is too "Sensitive" and that "it's not that big of a deal".

    The phrase is so over used and simplified that it is become a tired argumentative fallacy. Instead of engaging and honestly addressing an issue, those who refuse to see for what it is simply cry "PC" and go on their merry ol' way.

    It's rampant on this forum as well. It reeks of false victim hood, where those who belong to a privileged class that often is contributing to the misfortune of another people essentially cry out because they are being stripped of their right to subjugate, harass, alienate, or otherwise mistreat others. It's silly.

    But that's my perspective, what's yours?

    Is PC a real thing? Are people too sensitive? Or is PC a cop out excuse used to sweep pressing issues under the rug?
    Yes and No.

    There is such a thing as "political correctness", but not just the "liberal" one you're describing. There is right-wing/conservative "political correctness" as well, just that it is usually not called that way.

    I agree that the term "political correctness" is mostly a fighting word invented by the right to smear certain left-wing claims.

    But the same mechanism works the other way, just that liberals have not yet found a similarly catchy phrase yet.

    There are certain things that are considered unquestionable truths by right-wingers, and dare you ever question them, they'll jump at you -- just like liberals jump at people who question their values and unquestionable truths.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    What do you mean by "not allowed?"
    Not allowed. Can't say it. Are corrected when they say it. Are reprimanded when they say it again. Can not say the words. Can only say "Happy Holidays" or worse yet, "Season's Greetings".

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not allowed. Can't say it. Are corrected when they say it. Are reprimanded when they say it again. Can not say the words. Can only say "Happy Holidays" or worse yet, "Season's Greetings".
    By the teachers? I'm not familiar with NE schools - is it school board policy or just informally put into place by teachers and administration? And would they be punished if they said it in defiance of classroom rules? (I'm not questioning that this is true, I'm actually curious as to what's happening)

    I'd figure that's something most liberals wouldn't condone. It seems to me that's more of a result of the stupidity of bureaucracy than of anything wrong with liberalism.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    By the teachers? I'm not familiar with NE schools - is it school board policy or just informally put into place by teachers and administration? And would they be punished if they said it in defiance of classroom rules? (I'm not questioning that this is true, I'm actually curious as to what's happening)

    I'd figure that's something most liberals wouldn't condone. It seems to me that's more of a result of the stupidity of bureaucracy than of anything wrong with liberalism.
    Yes mostly by teachers, although one of mine got in trouble in 6th grade when he was waiting in the guidance office for some papers he was bringing back to his class. It was right before Christmas break, and he said "Merry Christmas" to the secretary when he left, and she called me. I was fuming (at her, NOT my kid).

    I think in my town's case it was implemented by the school board, which is surprising given how non-liberal my town is (we went about 82% for Romney in 2012).

    It annoys me.

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