View Poll Results: Is Political Correctness real?

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  • Yes PC is real and is rampant. People are too sensitive.

    42 68.85%
  • Yes and No - It depends. (Explain in your post)

    11 18.03%
  • No PC is a made up escape goat. It is a catch phrase used to distract from a real issue.

    8 13.11%
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    How does my definition of political correctness determine the nature of "every subject"?


    I didn't say that political correctness wasn't "based in some form of reality or without meaning." I said that was a theory. A theory , as I'm using it, is "a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact." Do you agree or disagree that it is a theory? Why or why not?


    Who is the "one side" that you believe advocates this standard?


    Black men, women and gay people have all been historically jailed, assaulted and murdered for merely looking at "the wrong person." It's all but stopped for black men. It's getting less for gay people. It's still happening to a lot of women. It was a common standard for all groups 50-60 years ago which is recent in generational standards. Not hyperbolic at all.


    What would you consider a "civil" approach to the matter?


    Some people do respond to what you call "political correctness" by doubling down on their "hateful" thoughts and becoming "phony" in order to survive, you are correct. At the same time, other people respond by curbing their language out of a genuine desire to consider other people. And still more people respond by reconsidering their point of view. As far as I'm concerned, only the last two groups are important. The former group usually goes the way of the KKK - into marginalization - as the new standard is normalized.


    I don't believe that you are advocating the denigration of marginalized groups. I do, however, recognize that criticisms of "political correctness" favor the privileged over the marginalized.


    I don't know about "socialistic thought", but the social pressure utilized by those who advocate what you call "political correctness" actually has a pretty good track record, historically. It's one the main tools human beings use to get each other to do what they want to do. It works.


    Your "theory" is enforcement of what's "correct" as defined by whom?

    The government? **** that, governments are corrupt. Who then and by what right do you do so? By what standard do you impose the re-definition of what's right? If I self identify as a "Pollack" then what right has anyone to say that I cannot?

    BTW, even the most diehard PC's love Pollack jokes.....

    Now that's ironic offsensiveness.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    From the link about the VA Hospital:

    Boys and girls at Grace Academy in Prosper, Tex., spent most of last Friday making homemade Christmas cards for bedridden veterans at the VA hospital in Dallas.

    Fourth-grader Gracie Brown was especially proud of her card, hoping it would “make their day because their family might live far away, and they might not have somebody to celebrate Christmas with.”










    “I’d like them to know they’ve not been forgotten and somebody wanted to say thank you,” Gracie told MyFoxDFW.com.

    Gracie’s card read, “Merry Christmas. Thank you for your service.” It also included an American flag.

    But the bedridden veterans at the VA hospital will never get to see Gracie’s card. Nor will they see the cards made by 51 other students. That’s because the Christmas cards violated VA policy.


    later from the link:

    A VA official quoted the policy which is in the Veterans Health Administration handbook:

    "In order to be respectful of our veterans' religious beliefs, all donated holiday cards are reviewed by a multi-disciplinary team of staff led by chaplaincy services and determined if they are appropriate (non-religious) to freely distribute to patients. We regret this process was not fully explained to this group and apologize for any misunderstanding."


    Please tell me that's a joke. I feel sick,
    It's not but those that don't have a problem with it will also tell you that no one's right to say it have been liimited.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Nope. I'm for giving them the RIGHT to say Merry Christmas. After all, Christmas is federally-approved holiday.

    Anybody who is against that can go climb back under their rock.
    Nobody's "right to say Merry Christmas" has been infringed by anyone.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative65 View Post
    You can call me one all day long. While I might not agree or like it, unlike Liberals who want to ban what they don't like, I won't try to stop you from using it.
    That's the difference between you and me.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Saul Alinsky's RULE12: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

    Political correctness is the current preferred tool of choice to accomplish Rule 12. For what purpose you say? Also from Alinksy:

    "The organizer dedicated to changing the life of a particular community must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act …When those prominent in the status quo turn and label you an 'agitator' they are completely correct, for that is, in one word, your function - to agitate to the point of conflict." — from Rules for Radicals, pp. 116-117


    Alinksy claimed not to be a strong ideologue tied to any particular sociopolitical system as he acknowledged the excesses of everything from Jewish purges of Biblical times to the Inquisition to Communist and Nazi genocides. But he absolutely believed in turning people against the successful and those in power with the goal of destroying the establishment, dismantling the system, and stripping the power and property from the 'haves' so that a new Marxist style society could be established in its wake.

    IMO, political correctness, as understood and utilized inour current times, is an implementation of this particular philosophy. It is misguided, it is evil, it is hateful, and it is wrong.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    I picked yes and no. Do people choose specific language to deliberately avoid offending specific groups? Definitely. Is there an evil conspiracy to suppress conservatives and advance a Marxist agenda? Of course not. And the people who complain most about "political correctness" are really just butthurt that they can't openly denigrate or stereotype minorities and other special interest groups without being called out on their bigotry.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Nobody's "right to say Merry Christmas" has been infringed by anyone.
    How do you know? You live in la la land with the Looney Left.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    How do you know? You live in la la land with the Looney Left.
    Thank you for your "contribution" to the thread. Considering you also consider healthier school lunches "PC," I think it's safe to say you have no earthly idea what you're talking about.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    How do you know? You live in la la land with the Looney Left.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    How do you know? You live in la la land with the Looney Left.
    Is there a law in the United States preventing people from saying "Merry Christmas?"
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