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  • Yes PC is real and is rampant. People are too sensitive.

    42 68.85%
  • Yes and No - It depends. (Explain in your post)

    11 18.03%
  • No PC is a made up escape goat. It is a catch phrase used to distract from a real issue.

    8 13.11%
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Thread: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Political correctness is the position of being excessively careful not to offend any group of people in society who are believed to have a disadvantage. So, in this definition, it's definitely associated with public pressure to limit freedom of expression to an uncommonly high standard. The problems begin to arise when the public opinion and standard, don't meet with realistic expectations, and where the punishment is overly severe because of group self righteousness.

    PC is more about appearances and phony hypocrisy than about reality.
    I don't agree with your last sentence (though it's true in some cases) but I do agree with a lot of your first paragraph. Criticizing others for what they say has gone overboard in some cases. There's nothing people like more than to clutch their pearls and fall on the couch.

    Of course, if it's something Democrats believe should be criticized it's considered being "PC" but there's a lot of pearl clutching and feinting that goes on the right....but of course the right would never call the political correctness.

    The fact is...everybody to some extent believes in society policing language.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    It's for real and it's for sissys...

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    No it isnt. Saying no veterans would ever see the cards is an outright lie. Read the rest of Foxs story. It says they are passed out too, to people who state they dont mind the religious content. I know the VA regs on this issue and I know why. Can you imagine if the local Mosque brought down some holiday cards and passed them out thanking Allah for hte vets servicec? Oh the Faux rage on that one. I know the right wingers require emotional stirring constant to maintin the high level of what ever it is, but this story is not true. Vets do get religious cards in the VA.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, it's not a "Faux spin". It's the VA's policy. And it's a ridiculous one, unless Christmas ceased to be a national holiday.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    No it isnt. Saying no veterans would ever see the cards is an outright lie. Read the rest of Foxs story. It says they are passed out too, to people who state they dont mind the religious content. I know the VA regs on this issue and I know why. Can you imagine if the local Mosque brought down some holiday cards and passed them out thanking Allah for hte vets servicec? Oh the Faux rage on that one. I know the right wingers require emotional stirring constant to maintin the high level of what ever it is, but this story is not true. Vets do get religious cards in the VA.
    A VA official quoted the policy which is in the Veterans Health Administration handbook:

    "In order to be respectful of our veterans' religious beliefs, all donated holiday cards are reviewed by a multi-disciplinary team of staff led by chaplaincy services and determined if they are appropriate (non-religious) to freely distribute to patients. We regret this process was not fully explained to this group and apologize for any misunderstanding."

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    An spokesperson for the VA clarified the policy Monday, which is in the Veterans Health Administration handbook, by stating the following:

    "In order to be respectful of our Veterans religious beliefs, all donated holiday cards are reviewed by a multi-disciplinary team of staff led by Chaplaincy services and determined if they are appropriate (non-religious) to freely distribute to patients. After the review is complete, the holiday cards that reference religious and/or secular tones are then distributed by Chaplaincy Service on a one-on-one basis if the patient agrees to the religious reference in the holiday card donation. The holiday cards that do not contain religious and/or secular tones are distributed freely to patients across the Health Care System. We regret this process was not fully explained to this group and apologize for any misunderstanding."
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    A VA official quoted the policy which is in the Veterans Health Administration handbook:

    "In order to be respectful of our veterans' religious beliefs, all donated holiday cards are reviewed by a multi-disciplinary team of staff led by chaplaincy services and determined if they are appropriate (non-religious) to freely distribute to patients. We regret this process was not fully explained to this group and apologize for any misunderstanding."
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    In my opinion this policy is to stop the local mosque from distributing holiday cards too.
    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    An spokesperson for the VA clarified the policy Monday, which is in the Veterans Health Administration handbook, by stating the following:

    "In order to be respectful of our Veterans religious beliefs, all donated holiday cards are reviewed by a multi-disciplinary team of staff led by Chaplaincy services and determined if they are appropriate (non-religious) to freely distribute to patients. After the review is complete, the holiday cards that reference religious and/or secular tones are then distributed by Chaplaincy Service on a one-on-one basis if the patient agrees to the religious reference in the holiday card donation. The holiday cards that do not contain religious and/or secular tones are distributed freely to patients across the Health Care System. We regret this process was not fully explained to this group and apologize for any misunderstanding."
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    An spokesperson for the VA clarified the policy Monday, which is in the Veterans Health Administration handbook, by stating the following:

    "In order to be respectful of our Veterans religious beliefs, all donated holiday cards are reviewed by a multi-disciplinary team of staff led by Chaplaincy services and determined if they are appropriate (non-religious) to freely distribute to patients. After the review is complete, the holiday cards that reference religious and/or secular tones are then distributed by Chaplaincy Service on a one-on-one basis if the patient agrees to the religious reference in the holiday card donation. The holiday cards that do not contain religious and/or secular tones are distributed freely to patients across the Health Care System. We regret this process was not fully explained to this group and apologize for any misunderstanding."
    And that changed what exactly?

    Nothing.

    The people in the VA would be wiser looking inside their policies that allow patients to die than they are worrying about Christmas cards.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I don't agree with your last sentence (though it's true in some cases) but I do agree with a lot of your first paragraph. Criticizing others for what they say has gone overboard in some cases. There's nothing people like more than to clutch their pearls and fall on the couch.

    Of course, if it's something Democrats believe should be criticized it's considered being "PC" but there's a lot of pearl clutching and feinting that goes on the right....but of course the right would never call the political correctness.

    The fact is...everybody to some extent believes in society policing language.
    My definition of PC in the last sentence is a about the extreme version.

    Oh, the right is equally guilty of other types of partisan accusations and rants. They think they're more patriotic, capitalistically fair, morally superior- based on religious standards, more accurate in applying Constitutional interpretations, lump group judging all liberals and progressives etc. They can't find one single, realistically positive thing to say about Obama or his policies, especially ACA. I find that equally as ridiculous, as repressing free speech thru PC pressure. But it's always the extremes on both sides that are the most vocal.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Well it changed the point of the story and the Faux rage of that day, what ever day it was. The fauxites seen the line about the poor little girls card would never get to a vet and the fauxhead got all mushy and stirred up. Antohre lie, but keeps them stirred up till the next Fauxrage.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And that changed what exactly?

    Nothing.

    The people in the VA would be wiser looking inside their policies that allow patients to die than they are worrying about Christmas cards.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    A little ideology is not inherently a bad thing, but taken to partisan and emotional extremes it's very similar to religious zealotry.
    a little, yes. so long as one is prepared to review that ideology from time to time, but then that's liberal ideology....
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