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  • Yes PC is real and is rampant. People are too sensitive.

    42 68.85%
  • Yes and No - It depends. (Explain in your post)

    11 18.03%
  • No PC is a made up escape goat. It is a catch phrase used to distract from a real issue.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    PC is about speaking accurately and avoiding unintentional insults directed against groups of people. While I think most people can appreciate that, there are always some assholes that are happy to insult groups of people. They revel in being scumbags, insulting groups other than their own and otherwise relying on group identity politics in order to have any self worth. Often, such inconsiderate and largely illiterate morons are the same people that claim no racism exists today, women are inferior and "black culture" is destroying America.

    Railing against considerate speech, both intellectually and socially, is the realm of dumbass rednecks.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    PC is about speaking accurately and avoiding unintentional insults directed against groups of people. While I think most people can appreciate that, there are always some assholes that are happy to insult groups of people. They revel in being scumbags, insulting groups other than their own and otherwise relying on group identity politics in order to have any self worth. Often, such inconsiderate and largely illiterate morons are the same people that claim no racism exists today, women are inferior and "black culture" is destroying America.

    Railing against considerate speech, both intellectually and socially, is the realm of dumbass rednecks.
    Interesting what you can learn from what some people might call a dumbass redneck over a drink or two. From what I've seen, most of them are just regular people, at heart.

    They just didn't grow up in leafy suburbs, with Mummy boasting to everyone about how they were only four, but already were learning French from flash cards and had a taste for Camembert. And Daddy wasn't asking them if they'd rather have the BMW or the trip to Europe as a high school graduation present. More likely, they grew up eating fried baloney sandwiches and wondering if they'd get swatted after Daddy had had a few.

    It's not saying considerate things that bothers me. We should all do that. It's self-righteous control freaks who want to coerce other people into not saying inconsiderate things that bothers me. I don't like the fact some people have bigoted views, either--but God damn it all, I will always defend their right to have them. We don't punish thoughts in this county, and within broad limits, we don't punish unpopular speech, either.

    The way for fair people to deal with bigots is not to make up a bunch of coercive rules about what they can and can't say. It's to try to reason with them, first--and if that fails, to refuse to talk with them, or have anything to do with them. Ostracism can be a very effective moral sanction.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Interesting what you can learn from what some people might call a dumbass redneck over a drink or two.
    I doubt that.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    PC is about speaking accurately and avoiding unintentional insults directed against groups of people. While I think most people can appreciate that, there are always some assholes that are happy to insult groups of people. They revel in being scumbags, insulting groups other than their own and otherwise relying on group identity politics in order to have any self worth. Often, such inconsiderate and largely illiterate morons are the same people that claim no racism exists today, women are inferior and "black culture" is destroying America.

    Railing against considerate speech, both intellectually and socially, is the realm of dumbass rednecks.
    Considerate speech? Is that what you call it when it is designed to silence another from speaking what they actually think? To push such a thing that makes others afraid of repercussions if they dare state what they actually think? Because the collective think groups want to silence any opposition from what they are selling? If you say so. But basically what it boils down to is violating the free speech of others in the name of your delicate sensitive ears and eyes that don't care to hear it like it truly is.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    I honestly have a hard time understanding what PC is and what it is not. A lot people who complain about PC tend to be conservative, and I am not sure what they upset about not being able to say. Just don't say anything offensive, sexist, or racist. I don't find it hard.

    I know Palin gets upset about people saying retard, and it's understandable. Other than that, conservatives get upset about "Happy Holidays."

    I am confused if Happy Holidays is PC or if Merry Christmas is PC. I just know conservatives are the sore asses on the issue... lol



    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    With the introduction of social media it has become more and more difficult to escape the "news" no matter what it's covering. As a result discussions of every little thing under the clear blue sky is becoming more and more a common past time, for all ages.

    With that the intrinsic social issues that are rampant throughout societies world wide- women rights, male rights, gay rights, racial rights, etc - get a lot of air time. And as a result there are some who appear to be weary of issues that seem to never go away. So in comes the new or reintroduced "it" phrase. "Political Correctness".

    It appears that now, regardless if the issue has any merit and is in fact morally or ethically insidious , those who are sick of discussing it dismiss it as "political correctness". They insist that the everyone is too "Sensitive" and that "it's not that big of a deal".

    The phrase is so over used and simplified that it is become a tired argumentative fallacy. Instead of engaging and honestly addressing an issue, those who refuse to see for what it is simply cry "PC" and go on their merry ol' way.

    It's rampant on this forum as well. It reeks of false victim hood, where those who belong to a privileged class that often is contributing to the misfortune of another people essentially cry out because they are being stripped of their right to subjugate, harass, alienate, or otherwise mistreat others. It's silly.

    But that's my perspective, what's yours?

    Is PC a real thing? Are people too sensitive? Or is PC a cop out excuse used to sweep pressing issues under the rug?

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    I think Redskin was an actual racist insult. I know plenty of people call themselves brown and black, so it's not the use of a color. It's a racist insult. It would be like having a team called the wetbacks, the n*ggers, etc.

    That's how I understand the issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The assertion that there is no right or wrong only multiple shades of grey followed, sometimes immediately, by but you cannot express that "offensive" opinion is the dreaded use of PC to silence opposition. The current hoopla over the use of Redskins for the name of an NFL team yet no such backlash over the (equally offensive?) use of colored people, black people or brown people drives the point clearly home. Hail to the Redskins - fight against PC.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    But the right has their version of not being fair with the facts. If you're black and endorse Obama, it's because of race. If you want to raise taxes on the wealthiest 1%, you're a commie socialist, etc.

    These are tactics to shut down an actual conversation. Both sides do it, but it is a matter of politics. Many conservative and liberal voters are just normal people, not politicians, and there is no reason why the common people should play politics on that level. I don't know many people in the real world who talk or think like that. Most people I know are cynical about politics, and one reason why would be some of these political tactics.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The problem with "PC" is that Left Wing intellectual authoritarians use it as a method to try and silence opinions they disagree with, and forcibly reshape culture to their own ends.

    Ironically, their primary means of doing so revolve around the very type of over-generalized "branding" and "labeling" that P.C. is supposed to prevent in the first place.

    i.e.

    If you criticize any culture other than your own, you are branded as being a "racist."

    If you criticize a life style you find questionable, you are branded as being a "sexist" or "homophobe."

    If you criticize weak domestic policy, you are branded as being a "fascist."

    If you criticize weak foreign policy, you are branded as being a "chauvinist" or "jingoist."

    If you criticize behaviors which perpetuate poverty, you are told that you need to "check your privilege."

    Etca, etca...

    It's basically just an underhanded way for certain kinds of people to hijack and destroy any discussion they don't like using pre-rendered logical fallacies that completely ignore the legitimate points that their opponents may have been trying to make.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    On the other hand, you are trying to force people to say Merry Christmas, right? You don't like Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, so in the same vein you are trying to do the same thing.
    I think the GOP was playing the PC police when Palin was running for VP. They would constantly scream, WHERE ARE THE FEMINISTS! They constantly wanted feminist to say something about this or that, and they were constantly complaining about sexism.

    I think if they had more women and minorities in their party, they wouldn't cry about offensive speech towards women and minorities.

    I also remember when Palin was pissed at Letterman, because he made a joke. A JOKE. And she went off on him on Fox for days, until he apologized two separate times... lol. And then she whined again when Family Guy episode with a down syndrome character on it.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    What positions or actions did Alinsky take that you find objectionable enough to compare him to Hitler and Stalin?
    I didn't compare him to Hitler or Stalin.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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