View Poll Results: Is Political Correctness real?

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  • Yes PC is real and is rampant. People are too sensitive.

    42 68.85%
  • Yes and No - It depends. (Explain in your post)

    11 18.03%
  • No PC is a made up escape goat. It is a catch phrase used to distract from a real issue.

    8 13.11%
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Thread: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Again, however, "political correctness" was a movement driven largely by academia, with a deliberate (and usually Marxist) political aim in mind.
    The term political correctness is in regard to that. The method of social control is not isolated to academia, left-wing political movements, and so on. Previously, the term political correctness referred to a lock-step following of Party doctrine.

    What people attribute to what upsets them about political correctness, however, is precisely what has been used by groups from centuries ago, for various political and social causes.

    It is terribly fascinating to see it play out in the press in the immediate aftermath of the Denmark Vesey incident. South Carolinian papers identifying specific papers of the North, specific authors, who had broken the "long-standing" social custom of observing the sensitivities of the South's slavery regime. Then immediately in regard to the abolitionist literature in the post office episode, when the mere act of having mail addressed to you which offended Southerners (a numeric minority, with a white demographic majority in the nation--but sometimes nevertheless minority status in a given county) could be reason enough to be socially ridiculed, isolated, or denied access to information. Words were heavily regulated, and only the right words or tones were accepted.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Not at all, just don't freak out if I wish you a Merry Christmas.
    You're welcome to wish anyone anything you want, just don't freak out when someone else picks a different term. There is no war on Christmas, that's idiotic.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    There you go. And now I will go on my merry ole way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    With the introduction of social media it has become more and more difficult to escape the "news" no matter what it's covering. As a result discussions of every little thing under the clear blue sky is becoming more and more a common past time, for all ages.

    With that the intrinsic social issues that are rampant throughout societies world wide- women rights, male rights, gay rights, racial rights, etc - get a lot of air time. And as a result there are some who appear to be weary of issues that seem to never go away. So in comes the new or reintroduced "it" phrase. "Political Correctness".

    It appears that now, regardless if the issue has any merit and is in fact morally or ethically insidious , those who are sick of discussing it dismiss it as "political correctness". They insist that the everyone is too "Sensitive" and that "it's not that big of a deal".

    The phrase is so over used and simplified that it is become a tired argumentative fallacy. Instead of engaging and honestly addressing an issue, those who refuse to see for what it is simply cry "PC" and go on their merry ol' way.

    It's rampant on this forum as well. It reeks of false victim hood, where those who belong to a privileged class that often is contributing to the misfortune of another people essentially cry out because they are being stripped of their right to subjugate, harass, alienate, or otherwise mistreat others. It's silly.

    But that's my perspective, what's yours?

    Is PC a real thing? Are people too sensitive? Or is PC a cop out excuse used to sweep pressing issues under the rug?

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You're welcome to wish anyone anything you want, just don't freak out when someone else picks a different term. There is no war on Christmas, that's idiotic.
    Where was I talking about a war on Christmas? Why would I freak if someone gives me a different holiday greeting?

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Where was I talking about a war on Christmas? Why would I freak if someone gives me a different holiday greeting?
    I don't know, lots of people seem to. If you're not one of them, kindly disregard.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Don't know if you're referring to me or Alinksy here, but I'll stand by my perceptions on this. And Alinsky may be crap, but he, or at least his doctrine, is carefully studied and taken very seriously by many.
    I'm saying that Alinsky's tactics are appropriate in some situations when being passive and silent means living with oppression, squalor and poverty.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    With the introduction of social media it has become more and more difficult to escape the "news" no matter what it's covering. As a result discussions of every little thing under the clear blue sky is becoming more and more a common past time, for all ages.

    With that the intrinsic social issues that are rampant throughout societies world wide- women rights, male rights, gay rights, racial rights, etc - get a lot of air time. And as a result there are some who appear to be weary of issues that seem to never go away. So in comes the new or reintroduced "it" phrase. "Political Correctness".

    It appears that now, regardless if the issue has any merit and is in fact morally or ethically insidious , those who are sick of discussing it dismiss it as "political correctness". They insist that the everyone is too "Sensitive" and that "it's not that big of a deal".

    The phrase is so over used and simplified that it is become a tired argumentative fallacy. Instead of engaging and honestly addressing an issue, those who refuse to see for what it is simply cry "PC" and go on their merry ol' way.

    It's rampant on this forum as well. It reeks of false victim hood, where those who belong to a privileged class that often is contributing to the misfortune of another people essentially cry out because they are being stripped of their right to subjugate, harass, alienate, or otherwise mistreat others. It's silly.

    But that's my perspective, what's yours?

    Is PC a real thing? Are people too sensitive? Or is PC a cop out excuse used to sweep pressing issues under the rug?
    One need only look at who and what the complaints of "political correctness" overwhelmingly directed at to see that "political correctness" is a farce. The complaints are primarily directed at marginalized groups and concepts that defend marginalized groups. It isn't white people who whine about being called "racist" who are called "PC", it is people of color who ask that jokes no longer be made at there expense or that teams no longer use names that insult them who are called PC. It isn't men who are called "PC" when they express outrage at women who speak about "rape culture". It is women who ask that "being a girl" no longer be used as insult that are called "PC". And so on.

    The concept of "political correctness" and the idea that people are becoming "too sensitive" are arguments that have been developed in response to increasing attempts by many people in our society to move past the tradition of letting the privileged decide how the marginalized should be spoken about. It's the last, desperate attempt of bigotry to withstand its inevitable.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    One need only look at who and what the complaints of "political correctness" overwhelmingly directed at to see that "political correctness" is a farce. The complaints are primarily directed at marginalized groups and concepts that defend marginalized groups. It isn't white people who whine about being called "racist" who are called "PC", it is people of color who ask that jokes no longer be made at there expense or that teams no longer use names that insult them who are called PC. It isn't men who are called "PC" when they express outrage at women who speak about "rape culture". It is women who ask that "being a girl" no longer be used as insult that are called "PC". And so on.

    The concept of "political correctness" and the idea that people are becoming "too sensitive" are arguments that have been developed in response to increasing attempts by many people in our society to move past the tradition of letting the privileged decide how the marginalized should be spoken about. It's the last, desperate attempt of bigotry to withstand its inevitable.
    In fact the concept of political correctness was cooked up long ago by European communists as a way to silence people they considered heretics. It was imported here, where it has been popularized by leftists of various stripes.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    I believe in free speech that's is unmolested by PC... If someone has a problem with that? FAQ

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    "Political correctness" is not new, and the attempts to create more thoughtful and inclusive phrases stems from the civil rights movement, which begat the women's movement, which has begat....

    "Ms.," in my opinion, is critically important. "Police officer," "mail carrier," and etc. are not just more inclusive; they're also more precise.

    But political correctness can be dishonest and manipulative (for example, calling illegal immigrants "undocumented workers") or just plain silly (for example, referring to inmates as "involuntary guests of the state").

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