View Poll Results: Is Political Correctness real?

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  • Yes PC is real and is rampant. People are too sensitive.

    42 68.85%
  • Yes and No - It depends. (Explain in your post)

    11 18.03%
  • No PC is a made up escape goat. It is a catch phrase used to distract from a real issue.

    8 13.11%
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    You seem determined to personalize the discussion, unfortunately. I know political correctness doctrine often does not involve official government restriction of speech, although it has prompted First Amendment suits, e.g. in official speech codes on state university campuses. But when private persons use political correctness, however they try to sugar-coat it as being all about consideration and politeness, in fact they have exactly the same ugly intent. And that is to silence people they disagree with. I ignore people's attempts to do that, and I urge everyone else to do the same. The best way to resist attempts to make "Happy Holidays" the new, approved phrase, just to cite one example, is to insist all the more on saying "Merry Christmas" instead.
    Mm. Kay and you again are lost to what I am actually arguing. This is NOT about censoring. I've told you that three time now I believe. This is about trying to use the notion that people are being "political correct" to avoid discussing an issue that is real.
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    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    It is appropriate to bite the hand that feeds you crap.
    Don't know if you're referring to me or Alinksy here, but I'll stand by my perceptions on this. And Alinsky may be crap, but he, or at least his doctrine, is carefully studied and taken very seriously by many.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There's quite a difference between not saying things that you know will offend others and being afraid to say anything at all for fear that someone, somewhere, just might possibly be offended. That's the difference between polite society and political correctness.
    Well of course. However, when some AM Talk Radio personality says something offensive and then complains about "Political Correctness" when they face the PR backlash, a lot of times its not PC run amok, its that they said something that was offensive. For example, its offensive to compare homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality. It's not just PC, its offensive. If an individual can't say anything without offending someone, their problem might not be the PC Culture, it might just be they are a hatemongering jackass.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    But you have to remember why she went to Europe, Gath. Her literature against lynchings and the criticisms against the Southern press in how they covered the incidents resulted in a mob destroying her press and having her life threatened. Political correctness in action caused her to tour Europe to, in effect apologize to the horrors of the U.S. and galvanize Europe to decry the situation. Such a move was also unpopular for Americans, because political correctness dictated that if you were to complain about U.S. society, you must do so at home, not abroad.

    Persons complaining about Muslims threatening violence or death for bad commentary or liberals being so sensitive to followers of Islam that they dare not speak the name of "terrorist" have a point. So too did political correctness of the South prevent sensible any sensible discussion about the thousands who were being killed for erroneous reasons when it was really because of their race.
    Again, however, that's not really the same thing.

    What you're referring to here isn't institutionalized "political correctness." It's simply the "mob mentality" paired with "tyranny of the majority."

    Modern political correctness was a much more deliberate movement to limit vocabulary and acceptable speech, usually to drive a certain social and political agenda.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Well of course. However, when some AM Talk Radio personality says something offensive and then complains about "Political Correctness" when they face the PR backlash, a lot of times its not PC run amok, its that they said something that was offensive. For example, its offensive to compare homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality. It's not just PC, its offensive. If an individual can't say anything without offending someone, their problem might not be the PC Culture, it might just be they are a hatemongering jackass.
    Perhaps one of the greatest efforts of the PC Militia is when they take comments out of context, edit them to invent a new context, and then spread the invented context around the various PC Militia news outlets so these enemies of their agenda can hopefully be destroyed.

    That's a real problem that should expose those who participate in such antics as the tools they truly are.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Again, however, that's not really the same thing.

    What you're referring to here isn't institutionalized "political correctness." It's simply the "mob mentality" paired with "tyranny of the majority."
    It is political correctness, Gath.

    Modern political correctness was a much more deliberate movement to limit vocabulary and acceptable speech, usually to drive a certain social and political agenda.
    Precisely. There's no difference here. If someone can't publish literature or have conversations about the social or political agenda of the South, cannot use certain language to describe the situation (only using other approved words) without fear of reprisals or isolation, that is political correctness.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The very nature of a sports fan (fanatic?) is to be critical of (offensive to?) the opposing team and heap praise upon their favored team cheering even their most minor accomplishments and forgiving their shortcomings. Your confusion of sports fans and Christians is excused - go lions.
    Well, besides the Redskins. I don't particularly want to watch them because...well if I want maddeningly mediocre, there's the Bills and Vikings...

    Outside of that, why would you want to offend people?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It is political correctness, Gath.

    Precisely. There's no difference here. If someone can't publish literature or have conversations about the social or political agenda of the South, without fear of reprisals or isolation, that is political correctness.
    Again, however, "political correctness" was a movement driven largely by academia, with a deliberate (and usually Marxist) political aim in mind.

    It's almost like a real life version of Orwellian "newspeak."

    That's not really the same thing as the violent racist sentiment you described above. That kind of thing originated more or less spontaneously, in a rather ad hoc fashion. It also wasn't really focused around "words" per se, so much as social and political dissent in general.

    The modern "P.C." movement, on the other hand, is basically all about words, and was deliberately engineered to achieve a certain effect.

    They're both expressions of cultural authoritarianism. Don't get me wrong. However, this latest development in the cycle is rather unique compared to past eras.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Does it bother you if I say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas?
    Not at all, just don't freak out if I wish you a Merry Christmas.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I'm a nice guy... rarely intentionally mean. Nothing I do should be taken in offense... I don't intentionally insult people hardly ever.

    I don't ever get offended... as long as the person is respectful of what I have to say... and isn't intentionally trying to be mean/sarcastic/rude. Tea-bagger in almost every case I've heard it's meant to be a mean and dismissive term....Like whats the point in changing the name of a person who follows the tea party in the first place? to make fun of them like a child? It's an insult.... that's different.... anyone can toss out insult...

    You... you... Dirty Rosepetal!!!.... that's an insult that's just pointless...
    But then my actual point stands that it's still "political correctness." Saying tea-bagger offends some on the right, the same way other words may offend people of that "group."

    Either you can say these words, or you can't. You don't get separate rules for the TP.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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