View Poll Results: Is Political Correctness real?

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  • Yes PC is real and is rampant. People are too sensitive.

    42 68.85%
  • Yes and No - It depends. (Explain in your post)

    11 18.03%
  • No PC is a made up escape goat. It is a catch phrase used to distract from a real issue.

    8 13.11%
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Thread: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Then the specifics are disproportionate to being sensible. I've never seen people so afraid to say something slightly off color in public without getting railroaded.
    Throughout American history that's been something to observe. For instance, whether in the press or in private conversation, it was overwhelmingly obvious that Northerners had to observe the "sensitivities" of the South when discussing anything dealing with race or chattel slavery. Those that didn't toe the line to politely ignore it faced immense public ridicule or punishment that moved toward the person's economic livelihood (or their very lives). Given that we're talking about something as prominent as race and the South's largest economic force, this often stifled conversations and criticisms.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    I hung out on a very conservative site at the time. They were scurrying about calling themselves tea-baggers. The instant they realized what it meant (heck, I didnt know either) it was like they had never heard the word before and they would have a fit if someone (like me) mentioned it. Kinda funny and certainly silly.
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    Tea Party didn't. Tea-bagger did. Different terms. Lots of people still call themselves Tea Partiers.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Tea Party didn't. Tea-bagger did. Different terms. Lots of people still call themselves Tea Partiers.
    The wearing of tea-bags was a coincidence? Someone should have told Martha.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I find it rather hard to believe that a public personality one hundred, or even fifty, years ago would have had to make a public apology, and a full talk show "apology tour" simply for calling someone a bad name, or expressing an unpopular opinion.
    Eh, Ida B. Wells nearly comes to mind. She made an apology tour in Europe, but it wasn't that kind of an apology tour.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    : Your intellectual capacity is outstanding.

    Tell more about how words don't phase you yet you feel weirdly inclined to respond to the fact that I think your debating tactics are juvenile.

    Then you did cry?

    I did a bad bad thing.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Eh, Ida B. Wells nearly comes to mind. She made an apology tour in Europe, but it wasn't that kind of an apology tour.
    "Cloaking an Apology for Lawlessness": Ida B. Wells, Frances Willard and the Lynching Controversy, 1890-1894

    A public awareness campaign against lynching is not exactly the same thing as having to give a bunch of butt hurt morons on twitter an apology because they were "offended" that you offhandedly suggested that Mel Gibson might not be all that bad a guy.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I hung out on a very conservative site at the time. They were scurrying about calling themselves tea-baggers. The instant they realized what it meant (heck, I didnt know either) it was like they had never heard the word before and they would have a fit if someone (like me) mentioned it. Kinda funny and certainly silly.
    But they didn't do it because of the sexual connotation, they did it for the same reason they called themselves the Tea Party, for historical reasons. When they realized it had an unintended sexual meaning as well, they dropped it. I don't blame them for that at all, although they should have done some more research, it isn't like the sexual meaning was a secret or anything.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    "Cloaking an Apology for Lawlessness": Ida B. Wells, Frances Willard and the Lynching Controversy, 1890-1894

    A public awareness campaign against lynching is not exactly the same thing as having to give a bunch of butt hurt morons on twitter an apology because they were "offended" that you offhandedly suggested that Mel Gibson might not be all that bad a guy.

    Gary Oldman apologizes for 'offensive' comments about Jewish people after profanity-laced rant in Playboy Magazine - NY Daily News
    But you have to remember why she went to Europe, Gath. Her literature against lynchings and the criticisms against the Southern press in how they covered the incidents resulted in a mob destroying her press and having her life threatened. Political correctness in action caused her to tour Europe to, in effect apologize to the horrors of the U.S. and galvanize Europe to decry the situation. Such a move was also unpopular for Americans, because political correctness dictated that if you were to complain about U.S. society, you must do so at home, not abroad.

    Persons complaining about Muslims threatening violence or death for bad commentary or liberals being so sensitive to followers of Islam that they dare not speak the name of "terrorist" have a point. So too did political correctness of the South prevent sensible any sensible discussion about the thousands who were being killed for erroneous reasons when it was really because of their race.
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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Then you did cry?

    I did a bad bad thing.
    Maybe I did. Maybe I Didn't.

    Your concern is promising though. Did your heart grow three sizes today?
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    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: "Politcal Correctness" - False Victim hood or Real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    I really don't care what side of you I'm on. I don't care what you personally choose to call people. Quite frankly you sound like someone I wouldn't around me anyways. Your freedom of speech is not being challenged in this thread. The op is about using PC as an excuse to ignore an honest discussion. Not about censoring.
    You seem determined to personalize the discussion, unfortunately. I know political correctness doctrine often does not involve official government restriction of speech, although it has prompted First Amendment suits, e.g. in official speech codes on state university campuses. But when private persons use political correctness, however they try to sugar-coat it as being all about consideration and politeness, in fact they have exactly the same ugly intent. And that is to silence people they disagree with. I ignore people's attempts to do that, and I urge everyone else to do the same. The best way to resist attempts to make "Happy Holidays" the new, approved phrase, just to cite one example, is to insist all the more on saying "Merry Christmas" instead.

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